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Mario Lutz Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 56 Location : Puerto Galera, Philippines Points : 8191 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Bothrops asper Mon 14 Apr - 3:01 | |
| This snake gave me the willies as she arrived, jumping, trying biting - she got quite an attitude. today, she is calm and relaxed. Robert Meidinger is the Breeder, and we will make another importation of Roberts beautiful animals from Costa Rica. i have a big interest in Bothrops sensu lato, lets see, what else is coming up in the future! our Bothrops asperanybody else keep some? how about breeding, anyone´s successful so far? just tell us about it... cheers Mario | |
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Jörg Porstmann Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 243 Age : 50 Location : Ahlen, NRW, Germany Points : 6528 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Mon 14 Apr - 3:44 | |
| Well Mario, wait until the snakes become big. Your bothrops will get their fighting talent back. As young ones they are normaly calm. My neighbour has some of this guys from Columbia in big (about 1,70m) and when you open the cage it´s better to be real ready. Never seen anything like, when these guys getting angry. | |
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Mario Lutz Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 56 Location : Puerto Galera, Philippines Points : 8191 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Mon 14 Apr - 3:52 | |
| i like snakes with character, always does... nothing wrong whit that!
cheers Mario | |
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Pascal Kamp Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 105 Age : 52 Location : The Netherlands Points : 5953 Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Tue 15 Apr - 0:00 | |
| I like asper... not keeping them, Mario. To much character for me ! | |
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Wolfgang Wüster Systematicus
Number of posts : 273 Age : 114 Location : UK Points : 6193 Registration date : 2008-03-12
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Tue 15 Apr - 1:46 | |
| They are not all that bad - provided you don't treat them like rattlesnakes without rattles, but like taipans with inch-long fangs and infrared targetting devices. | |
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Pascal Kamp Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 105 Age : 52 Location : The Netherlands Points : 5953 Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Tue 15 Apr - 3:00 | |
| There you go ! I'm outta here... | |
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Mario Lutz Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 56 Location : Puerto Galera, Philippines Points : 8191 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Tue 15 Apr - 11:59 | |
| awesome... wolfgang hits the nail again!
cheers Mario | |
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ErikdeHaas
Number of posts : 4 Age : 47 Location : The Netherlands Points : 5863 Registration date : 2008-04-20
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Sun 20 Apr - 7:11 | |
| My most favorite genus and one of my favorite species... I don't know about taipans, but I do know that there is a huge difference in temperament between WC and CB specimens. Unfortunately herpers seem to emphasize the WC characters. My experience with this species (adults and juvenile CB specimens) is quite different. They are inquisative, alert, keen on food, a bit defensive but I do not find them to be as bad as you might think, looking at their reputation.. Guess it is a matter of "upbringing".. Grtz, Erik | |
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Janne Penttinen Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 65 Age : 47 Location : Finland Points : 5726 Registration date : 2008-11-17
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Mon 17 Nov - 4:04 | |
| Hello everyone, just arrived to this neat forum. Since you have nice topics about Bothrops, here's couple of mine, the alternatus of course not really related to the asper-topic.... Gotta few South- and Central American species in my collection. What can I say? Magnificent vipers. Sorry about fuzzy quality of the photos btw. Bothrops alternatus, the Urutu Bothrops asper | |
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Marthinus C. Harmse Snakemaster
Number of posts : 254 Age : 42 Location : South-Africa Points : 5846 Registration date : 2009-04-18
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Sun 31 Jan - 6:28 | |
| A bit of a late reply but wow wow wow. All the pictures are lovely. How difficult is it to get them on pinks? Nature's ultimate machine! | |
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Scotty Allen Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 103 Age : 69 Location : southern Ontario, CANADA Points : 5779 Registration date : 2008-11-19
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Sun 31 Jan - 20:25 | |
| - Wolfgang Wüster wrote:
- They are not all that bad - provided you don't treat them like rattlesnakes without rattles, but like taipans with inch-long fangs and infrared targetting devices.
Great analogy for the genus Wolfgang. I have no field experience with them but I know any of the captives that I have worked with have been real demons. Definately not "rattlesnakes without rattles". I have recently had the chance to work with some yearling barnetti that I think sprang direct from Medusa's hair! | |
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Markus Gottlieb Snakemaster
Number of posts : 262 Age : 33 Location : Upper Austria Points : 5985 Registration date : 2008-08-11
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Sun 31 Jan - 21:26 | |
| Really awesome snakes
But scary, I had the luck to find some in the wild when I was in Costa Rica, they are so damn good camouflaged, you almost step on them (160cm B. asper) , first thing you say "oh my god holy sh**", but I was surprised how calm they were. | |
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Wolfgang Wüster Systematicus
Number of posts : 273 Age : 114 Location : UK Points : 6193 Registration date : 2008-03-12
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Mon 1 Feb - 16:03 | |
| - Markus Gottlieb wrote:
- Really awesome snakes
But scary, I had the luck to find some in the wild when I was in Costa Rica, they are so damn good camouflaged, you almost step on them (160cm B. asper) , first thing you say "oh my god holy sh**", but I was surprised how calm they were. If they are coiled up and resting during the day, then they are best regarded as timebombs with a 10 second fuse: they will remain immobile (and invisible) until the fuse is lit - I have been in a group of half a dozen people scrambling along and taking flash photos of a large specimen, and it never moved. If you can hook them into a bag or trash can in one smooth move, it's no drama at all. If you fumble, drop them, they get entangled with vegetation while you hook them or you dither too much, then you get fireworks. They are certainly not unmanageable, but if you don't know what you are doing, you could be in for a shock. Definitely one of my favourites. | |
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Jamie Osburn Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 50 Age : 45 Location : Charleston, SC Points : 5829 Registration date : 2008-07-27
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Thu 4 Feb - 12:56 | |
| Bothrops asper are incredible animals. Dean Ripa has one that is preserved that, if I remember right, is 8'2" long. An absolute monster! I can't imagine what that would've been like to deal with. I'll just stick to my cobras and mambas! -Jamie | |
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Wolfgang Wüster Systematicus
Number of posts : 273 Age : 114 Location : UK Points : 6193 Registration date : 2008-03-12
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Thu 4 Feb - 15:43 | |
| - Jamie Osburn wrote:
- Bothrops asper are incredible animals. Dean Ripa has one that is preserved that, if I remember right, is 8'2" long. An absolute monster! I can't imagine what that would've been like to deal with. I'll just stick to my cobras and mambas! -Jamie
I know what you mean... I have very little experience of mambas. However, I actually did most of my learning on venomous snakes with cobras, and started working with Bothrops some years after that. While I would definitely not recommend cobras as "starter venomous", I can say with absolute certainty that if I had made some of my early goof-ups with Bothrops rather than cobras, we would be having this conversation via an ouija board. As it is, I just have a guardian angel with high blood pressure and post-traumatic stress disorder | |
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Guenter Leitenbauer Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1389 Age : 58 Location : Gunskirchen / Austria Points : 7126 Registration date : 2008-05-17
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Fri 5 Feb - 16:02 | |
| I like Your sense of humor, Wolfgang | |
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Janne Penttinen Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 65 Age : 47 Location : Finland Points : 5726 Registration date : 2008-11-17
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Fri 11 Jun - 2:00 | |
| The timebomb-description is incredibly accurate. Asper can be lifted with a pair of hooks at ease, however if the snake decides to go to a completetely different direction than supposed, you get action. First it makes a swift turn towards you or to the ground. Obviously you try to prevent that and continue to move the snake to the bucket. Even a slight distraction will cause the snake to launch to "x"-direction with truly incredible speed, and coiling right back at you when you regain the control with a hook, biting continuesly on the air. Then it launches off again to the same unknown direction and so on... | |
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Sascha Beckhoff Snakemaster
Number of posts : 313 Age : 41 Location : Nrw,Germany Points : 5834 Registration date : 2010-01-14
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Mark Truesdale Newbie
Number of posts : 8 Age : 52 Location : Warminster, Wiltshire, United Kingdom Points : 5342 Registration date : 2009-10-03
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Mon 27 Dec - 1:03 | |
| Great Bothrops pictures! Such a beautiful and fascinating group of vipers | |
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Jaroslav Karhánek Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 213 Age : 33 Location : Czech republic Points : 5759 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Mon 27 Dec - 2:08 | |
| Janne: Do you still have B.asper? Are you planning to breed them? If yes I would be very interested in babies:) This is one of the Lanceheads I would like to buy during next year. | |
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Nigel Sowter Snakemaster
Number of posts : 406 Age : 60 Location : Australia Points : 5406 Registration date : 2010-11-29
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Mon 27 Dec - 6:07 | |
| - Wolfgang Wüster wrote:
- They are not all that bad - provided you don't treat them like rattlesnakes without rattles, but like taipans with inch-long fangs and infrared targetting devices.
Sound like EXOCET MISSLES to me | |
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Bostjan Kraner Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 568 Age : 45 Location : Maribor - Slovenia Points : 5911 Registration date : 2010-03-14
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Tue 4 Jan - 1:41 | |
| One of these (B.Asper) has a prepared cage in my snakeroom. I hope he'll be tamable but I like snakes with caracter too. I can get an answer end of January when I'll pick him up. In my opinion this snake if pissed of is extremely dangerous. Probably one of ten most dangerous snake species. Wouldn't want to step on it in the wild.
Regards, BKK | |
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Jaroslav Karhánek Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 213 Age : 33 Location : Czech republic Points : 5759 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Tue 4 Jan - 2:56 | |
| Bostjan: you are going to get this snake? Should I know from who, I would be interested in them too. | |
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Bostjan Kraner Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 568 Age : 45 Location : Maribor - Slovenia Points : 5911 Registration date : 2010-03-14
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Tue 4 Jan - 3:03 | |
| I will ask. There were 2.3 available.
Regards, BKK | |
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Jaroslav Karhánek Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 213 Age : 33 Location : Czech republic Points : 5759 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: Bothrops asper Tue 4 Jan - 3:33 | |
| Ok, thank you. I would be interested just in 0.1 probably and are they from Costa Rica or from where, do you know? | |
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