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PostSubject: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 4:54
Very bad news:

http://www.estadao.com.br/noticias/cidades,incendio-no-instituto-butantan-e-debelado-em-uma-hora-e-meia,552220,0.htm#noticia
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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 5:44
I have no words to express myself with.
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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 7:22
Vert very sad news.... cant find words for this terrible loss....


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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 7:22
The Horror! It makes me sick. All those poor animals.
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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 8:31
Sick making
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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 8:50
NiekHofman wrote:
The Horror! It makes me sick. All those poor animals.

poor animals? those animals were dead (specimen in alcohol)... It was one of the biggest collection of herpetology in the world, with a lot of Types specimen. Sad
A big loss for the neotropical herpetology.
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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 8:55
Rémi Ksas wrote:
NiekHofman wrote:
The Horror! It makes me sick. All those poor animals.

poor animals? those animals were dead (specimen in alcohol)... It was one of the biggest collection of herpetology in the world, with a lot of Types specimen. Sad
A big loss for the neotropical herpetology.

What I have seen i n youtube clips also allot of live specimens were burned. In this youtube movies you see people rescuing live specimens in boxes.




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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 9:35
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Effectively, you're right!

It's sad for all the animals that died in the fire, but the Type-specimens are irreplaceable.


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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 15:40
The live specimens werre spiders used for antivenom production. The spider lab was in the same building. Fortunately the llive snake collections used for antivenom production etc. are kept in different buildings in the Butantan complex.

This is an absolute tragedy both for science, and especially for my many friends and colleagues at Butantan who have devoted their lives tto the study of that collection. Some species represented in that collection are probably not represented in any other, others may have gone extinct for all we know. A vast amount of irreplaceable material went up in smoke, and so did some people's life's work.

I spent many months working n that collection n the 1990s, but still cannot imagine what my friends there must be going through. Absolutely heartbreaking.
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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 17:17
Wolfgang Wüster wrote:
The live specimens werre spiders used for antivenom production. The spider lab was in the same building. Fortunately the llive snake collections used for antivenom production etc. are kept in different buildings in the Butantan complex.

This is an absolute tragedy both for science, and especially for my many friends and colleagues at Butantan who have devoted their lives tto the study of that collection. Some species represented in that collection are probably not represented in any other, others may have gone extinct for all we know. A vast amount of irreplaceable material went up in smoke, and so did some people's life's work.

I spent many months working n that collection n the 1990s, but still cannot imagine what my friends there must be going through. Absolutely heartbreaking.

Definally heartbreaking working years with heart and soul on a project or research and you see it fall apart over nigth.
On the other hand we should draw a lesson out of it that collections like this need to have a back up.

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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeMon 17 May - 1:52
There are no words for that Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeMon 17 May - 3:07
Here the link in english:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.estadao.com.br/noticias/cidades,incendio-no-instituto-butantan-e-debelado-em-uma-hora-e-meia,552220,0.htm%23noticia&sl=auto&tl=en
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PostSubject: Re: Fire in Butantan   Fire in Butantan Icon_minitimeMon 17 May - 18:12
This is so sad. I am very sorry to hear that so many decades of work has gone down the drain.
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