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PostSubject: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeFri 30 Jul - 22:43

Hey all, after long and careful consideration I have decided to go with this species for my first opistoglyph. I think they will make a reatively easy introduction into rear fanged snakes - I wanted to ease in gently, without being as gentle as getting something like Heterodon nasicus, for example. I just wondered what peoples experiences with these are? fun to keep? What sort of enclosures do people use etc? I will be sure to get photos up once mine arrives!

Many thanks,
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeSat 31 Jul - 1:13

Hello Alex,

excellent decision!
They are extremely interesting snakes, easy to keep, easy to handle and can learn very quickly. All of these that I ever had never attempted to bite me, I think this approach of your´s really is a gentle one.
They need a high terrarium with branches, they like to climb and you rarely see them on the ground. If you will breed them, offer a hiding-place somewhere up among branches, they will not lay their eggs in a box on the ground.
There is a good article (in German) about Philodryas in general and P. baroni in special by Andreas Hohmeister (Sauria, Berlin, 1999, 21 (2): page 9-21)

You write; "...once mine arrives" - will you get only one?

I wish you good luck and much fun with this species,
Rainer
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeSat 31 Jul - 2:40

Thanks for the reply Rainer, I am looking forward to working with them - not only my first opistoglyph but my first truly arboreal species also. I will try to track down that article and brush up on my high school German!

Unfortunately it does look as if I will only have the one to begin with, at present I simply don't have room for a pair, maybe next season I shall get a mate for the individual I get this time, we'll see.

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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeSat 31 Jul - 19:00

Philodryas is an interesting genus and baroni is a good choice to start with.
You can have a look at folllowing pages

www.philodryas.com by Rémi Ksas
and http://www.rear-fanged.com/philodryas.html

The article by Hohmeister is excellent and I hope to get some P.psammophidea from Hohmeister to build my breeeding group of P.psammophidea.

rgds Fabian
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeSat 31 Jul - 22:04

Thanks Fabian, I have been lurking around on your site for some time!!

In the future I would like to try my hand at Pseudoxenodon and Telescopus species, but I don't feel I have the resources/experience to take on wild caught lizard/amphib feeders at the moment. Maybe in a couple of years I will make it to Hamm or Houten and strike lucky and find some for sale though!

In the meantime, from what I hear so far, P. baroni is going to be a lovely species to keep, I'm very excited. I'm also told that they are quite an easy species to breed, would people agree with that?
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeSun 1 Aug - 0:52

Sure, Philodryas baroni is a perfect choice.
It's an easy and really interesting specie. One of the most interesting snakes I have ever kept, in my opinion.

And yes, breed them isn't difficult.

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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeMon 9 Aug - 4:26

I have a date set to pick up my P.baroni now! will get pics up on here by 23/08 Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeMon 9 Aug - 4:59

congrat to your date Smile

we are looking forward to here from you date Very Happy
pleas keep us up to date, how they behave etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeThu 26 Aug - 17:39

Philodryas baroni SDC10625

I finally collected this little lady on 22/08/10. I am very pleased with this choice for my first rear fang - I think she is exactly what I needed to begin my journey into opistoglyphous animals. Being that I am used to dealing only with boids, even my more aggressive animals are very slow by comparison to this lass. Given this fact I am glad I didn't jump in with something that is not only fast but willing to bite and potentially has a more serious effect to the bite!

I hadn't realised how tiny the hatchlings were going to be, I am looking forward to her growing up a little! I hope you guys like and I will keep you posted!
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeThu 26 Aug - 18:27

Hello Alex,

she´s a beauty! These snakes have always been my wife´s favorites.

I wish you much joy with her,

Rainer
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeThu 26 Aug - 21:36

Very nice Smile
I will always keep a group of these. Fun to work with, always alert, always hungry and great personalities.

Have fun!
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeThu 16 Sep - 9:44

Today is the day!!!! They are hatching. Sorry pic is blurry a little.
Philodryas baroni IMAG0105
There are fifteen eggs and three slits so far. Post pics of the clutch tomorrow after they are out.
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeFri 17 Sep - 11:51

Three out 12 to go.

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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeSat 18 Sep - 0:05

congrats timothy
could oyu post incubation temperatur and such please
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeSat 18 Sep - 0:08

Well done
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PostSubject: Re: Philodryas baroni   Philodryas baroni Icon_minitimeSat 18 Sep - 5:34

Avg. Temp in incubator 84.4 F , all eggs in 100% vermiculite.2 cups verm. To one half cup water in a large deli cup with top secured. Constant air circulation. 3 gal water basin in bottom. Post pics of it sometime today.
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