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Number of posts : 73 Age : 40 Location : Bucharest Points : 5276 Registration date : 2010-03-03
Subject: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 2:29
A friend of mine brought to my attention the kind of rubbish Discovery Network is airing these days and to be honest I was a little more than just shocked. Take a look for yourselves:
Miguel Tönnies Newbie
Number of posts : 28 Age : 62 Location : Europe Points : 4986 Registration date : 2010-10-15
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 2:52
It is, schockingly, true. This guy kills any critetr that happens on his survival path.
Tiberiu Sahlean Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 73 Age : 40 Location : Bucharest Points : 5276 Registration date : 2010-03-03
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 2:56
I can bet he's on a "survival" trail during a TV show. I would like to say a piece of mind about these kind of people but for the forum rules which I respect...
Peter Zürcher Admin
Number of posts : 1266 Age : 72 Location : Carinthia, Austria Points : 8119 Registration date : 2008-03-06
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 2:59
Also these stupidities do live from viewing rates - don't watch it.
Joni hottinen Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 105 Age : 33 Location : Varkaus, Finland Points : 5324 Registration date : 2010-02-16
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 3:02
oh my... that makes me sick.. but everything for entertaiment
i could make same things for him too!
Tiberiu Sahlean Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 73 Age : 40 Location : Bucharest Points : 5276 Registration date : 2010-03-03
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 3:04
That is a good point. At first I watched the puff adder part and I thought - oh, it is fake, because they cut the frame, but then I watched the boa part and I was really shocked.
Brett Franklin Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 118 Age : 50 Location : South Africa Points : 5556 Registration date : 2009-07-15
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 4:21
I used to actually like watching his shows. Not too impressed with him now though.
Guenter Leitenbauer Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1389 Age : 58 Location : Gunskirchen / Austria Points : 7125 Registration date : 2008-05-17
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 4:34
Sad! Einstein said: "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
Alex Larsen Newbie
Number of posts : 30 Age : 38 Location : Rhode Island Points : 4976 Registration date : 2010-10-26
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 7:02
The funny thing is that the guy won't kill protected species, but will all too happily do so for unprotected snakes. I won't condemn a person for killing a snake if it means a food source after being stranded God alone knows where, but there's no point to this.
Gavin Carpenter Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 138 Age : 64 Location : South Africa Points : 5938 Registration date : 2008-04-03
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 11:47
It would be a bit of luck if he picked up some incurable disease from eating this and then see if he survives!!!! I dont watch this crap because as you say Alex, there is no point to something like this! Cheers Gavin
Sami Heikkinen Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 173 Age : 41 Location : Finland Points : 5836 Registration date : 2008-11-04
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 15:15
This guy is a real turd.. I have seen couple of episodes of man vs. wild or something.. One of the episodes he was "hunting" reindeers by running after them with hes knive and after couple of nicely done cuts on the video he just happen to got one. This series is surely for the dumb people who doesn't know anything about nature, like you cannot catch reindeer by running after them in waist deep snow.
I liked more the Survivorman show.
Christian Moisander Snakemaster
Number of posts : 404 Age : 48 Location : Finland Points : 6147 Registration date : 2008-04-27
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 15:33
I have a question for you pros out there, regarding the first video...
Now, I've never had the opportunity to encounter one of the larger species in the wild, so I don't know, but... I have been bit by a number of snakes of different species, quite a few times. I've worked with ATB's for years now, so they contribute a fair number of those bites I've never noticed 'bad breath' on my snakes, nor have I ever suffered any noticable infection or any other problems from the bites of non-vens. Other than punctures and bleeding, in case the snake has been large enough. Although I did get an itchy reaction to the bite of small Thamnophis sp. which bit me in the knuckle back in the day
Are you likely to get a serious infection from the bite of wild/large non-venomous snake? Have any of you out there ever suffered one? In the field or at home.
As for the videos themselves, I'm not a fan. Sure, you eat to survive etc. and anyone will cringe at the sight of this when their favorite animal is being killed, but still... I don't know. Besides, I felt distaste in his cowardly approach to these magnificent animals. Seems to me that at best he saw them only as meals and had zero respect for them.
Eating raw Puff Adder? What about the ribs...
Martti Niskanen Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 118 Age : 45 Location : Jyväskylä, Finland Points : 5375 Registration date : 2010-02-19
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 16:49
Christian:
I've seen a serious infection resulting from a captive Boa constrictor bite, but from personal experience I'd agree with you that they're rare. Most people probably don't even clean the (non-ven) bite wounds, but just carry on as before. However, a bite in the wild in the tropics is a very different thing, as any puncture of the skin can easily get infected in hot, humid conditions. I don't know whether you're more likely to get an infection from a snake bite that a puncture wound from a plant, splinter or knife, but a puncture is a great risk nonetheless, so in this context BG (can't bring myself to write his name) has a point in that if you get bitten by a snake in the tropics you risk getting an infection.
But most of this speculation is useless if you don't know what you're doing or what you're killing. If you're lost in the bush with the sharp end of a puff adder stuck to your arm, an infection is the least of your worries.
Btw. Surely BG's show has nothing to do with real survival. Just sensationalist, shouty rubbish.
-Martti
Christian Moisander Snakemaster
Number of posts : 404 Age : 48 Location : Finland Points : 6147 Registration date : 2008-04-27
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Fri 5 Nov - 20:08
Thanks for the comments Martti, that cleared up some questions. I think sensationalist is a good word to sum up this guy, judging by these clips anyway.
Naturally infection in the case of a Puff Adder or other venomous snake-bite is mostly of lesser concern
Alex Larsen Newbie
Number of posts : 30 Age : 38 Location : Rhode Island Points : 4976 Registration date : 2010-10-26
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Sat 6 Nov - 4:33
A bite from a wild snake is the most likely vector for infection that Martti listed, with thorn/splinter puncture second, and a knife a distant third (presuming you care for it as you should). Then again, unless you have a first aid kit on you, any puncture is likely to result in even a minor infection, even if it's caused by simple exposure of the wound.
Martin Romanov Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 136 Age : 28 Location : Bulgaria Points : 5194 Registration date : 2010-08-02
Subject: Re: Discovery Channel... Sat 6 Nov - 14:38
It would be interesting to see if he finds a hungry cannibal tribe who a trying to survive...
Fri 5 Nov - 2:29
