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PostSubject: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeTue 14 Dec - 4:45

Here is the male (CB 2009), i don't have pics of the female at this moment, she ate yesterday..... Laughing :

Male Bitis cornuta Namibia

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PostSubject: fantastic animal   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeTue 14 Dec - 6:23

Thats a beautiful critter you have there i would love to have a few pairs of those myself Very Happy
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Good looking little Bitis. Thanks for sharing.
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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeTue 14 Dec - 14:38

Cool !!!! , still got its baby face Smile they almost possess human expressions sometimes ,Looks South African to me ?
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Andrew Hacket wrote:
Cool !!!! , still got its baby face Smile they almost possess human expressions sometimes ,Looks South African to me ?

Yes for the baby face.
But definitivly Namibia cornuta. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeWed 15 Dec - 4:20

Hi,
he looks to me , more like a Namaqualand B. cornuta.
Do you know the location from him ?
Any pics. from the female ?
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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeWed 15 Dec - 14:32

I have to agree with the comments, doesnt look like any Namibian cornuta Ive ever seen, and looks like many Namaqualand cornuta Ive seen.
Jean Henrie how can you be so sure if you did not collect the adults yourself?

Here is a pic of typical baby Namibian cornuta (Luderitz) (Photo by Craig Van Rensburg)

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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeWed 15 Dec - 19:02

Easy species to keep, not too hard to breed, and venom only making you wish you were dead.
The perfect venomous pet snake.
I believe these snakes are here to stay like ball pythons.
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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeWed 15 Dec - 22:49

Rob Deans wrote:
I have to agree with the comments, doesnt look like any Namibian cornuta Ive ever seen, and looks like many Namaqualand cornuta Ive seen.
Jean Henrie how can you be so sure if you did not collect the adults yourself?

Here is a pic of typical baby Namibian cornuta (Luderitz) (Photo by Craig Van Rensburg)

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You are right Rob Wink
You make me have the doubt now...
I buy them to Alfred Werner, and say me that they come from Namibia......so, peurhaps it's not the good location.
So, thanks for your and on the others people interesting comments.
I have to take some female pics (she's most lightly).....
Thanks again for the comments and escuse my categorit answer ! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeWed 15 Dec - 23:51

Here a pic of the female:

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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeThu 16 Dec - 2:12

Definitely Southafrican Locals, but who cares ? They are very nice ! :-)

Best of luck with them

Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeSat 18 Dec - 0:37

Yeah I agree with Marco, not Namibian but still beautiful.
Good luck with them.
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Thanks Rob and Marco ! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeSun 19 Dec - 14:42

Marthinus C. Harmse wrote:
Easy species to keep, not too hard to breed, and venom only making you wish you were dead.
The perfect venomous pet snake.
I believe these snakes are here to stay like ball pythons.

is very easy in captivity?? how is the temperament??

greetings from Perú
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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeSun 19 Dec - 16:15

Hi Walter

They are one of the easiest Bitis to keep I have found over the years. Given enough heat and lowish humidity then these snakes will thrive and breed.
They are hardy and respiratory disease seem to be one of the very few issues with these snakes, if any.

Their temperaments are very very short and their feeding responses are very strong!
Given the first chance they will hang onto your fingers.
The venom is strong enough to cause serious and permanent damage so they are dangerous animals but not really deadly in the true sense.

Thats last pic of JH Pastore does not look South-African to me but what the heck.
An argument for another day.

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Interesting thing Marthinus.......and it's not impossible, cause Alfred said me that there are from two differents father......
So what the others guys are thinking about?
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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeSun 19 Dec - 19:03

MH - From which Namibian locale have you seen cornuta which looked like the ones shown here?

I have seen huge variability in SA cornuta and only slight variation in Namibian ones, none of which looked remotely like this one, nor the babies.
Ive seen coastal SA cornuta which look just like this mother.

My opinion is based on my personal experience, if you have evidence showing otherwise Id be very keen to see it.

JHP - What do you mean? Did Alfred say that there were 2 possible fathers? 1 SA and 1 Namibian?
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Rob Deans wrote:
MH - From which Namibian locale have you seen cornuta which looked like the ones shown here?

I have seen huge variability in SA cornuta and only slight variation in Namibian ones, none of which looked remotely like this one, nor the babies.
Ive seen coastal SA cornuta which look just like this mother.

My opinion is based on my personal experience, if you have evidence showing otherwise Id be very keen to see it.

JHP - What do you mean? Did Alfred say that there were 2 possible fathers? 1 SA and 1 Namibian?

No i would say that there are different bloodline on the male and the female, but i have no more precisions.....
In fact, there is no consangunity, not more. Wink
About the fathers localities, i have no precisions, just fathers are not the same.


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Stunning female!
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Stunning female!
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Lovely cornuta Jean Smile
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Marthinus C. Harmse wrote:
Hi Walter

They are one of the easiest Bitis to keep I have found over the years. Given enough heat and lowish humidity then these snakes will thrive and breed.
They are hardy and respiratory disease seem to be one of the very few issues with these snakes, if any.

Their temperaments are very very short and their feeding responses are very strong!
Given the first chance they will hang onto your fingers.
The venom is strong enough to cause serious and permanent damage so they are dangerous animals but not really deadly in the true sense.

Thats last pic of JH Pastore does not look South-African to me but what the heck.
An argument for another day.


Thx Marthinus, good information....
Greetings from Perú
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PostSubject: Re: one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta....   one of my favorit: Bitis cornuta.... Icon_minitimeWed 6 Apr - 22:32

wow surprized to see so many of namibias dwarf bitis overseas its scary!just wondering how you guys get some of these snakes out of our country
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In Europe some guys breeding Bitis cornuta every year...
And you´ll find also, but not so often, litters of Atropos, Caudalis and Xeropaga...
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Very nice cornutas.

Here my own CD 2009.

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after sheeding:
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Cheers, Tom
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