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+15Chaim Haveman Jorg Schenkels Niels van den Hooff Peter Zürcher Stefan Anthonijsz Carlos Villalba Kelly Chabak Kevin Prahl Nigel Sowter Stefan Wennekes Miro Voutilainen Alexandru Strugariu Bostjan Kraner Tom Charlton Patrick Waffek 19 posters |
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Patrick Waffek
Snakecharmer
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Location : Osnabrück, Germany
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Registration date : 2010-06-07
| Subject: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ??  Sat 18 Dec - 0:36 | |
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Tom Charlton
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 68
Age : 37
Location : England
Points : 5906
Registration date : 2008-07-04
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sat 18 Dec - 3:19 | |
| Hi Patrick,
I would say yes, definately. She looks exactly the same as both my female Naja kaouthia did last year when gravid. I see she is also lying with the back half of her body under the heat source, another positive sign!
cheers,
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Bostjan Kraner
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 568
Age : 45
Location : Maribor - Slovenia
Points : 5918
Registration date : 2010-03-14
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sun 19 Dec - 4:18 | |
| Wish you a lot of healthy babies.
Regards, BKK | |
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Alexandru Strugariu
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 99
Age : 37
Location : Romania
Points : 5074
Registration date : 2010-11-13
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sun 19 Dec - 5:26 | |
| Hi Patrick,
Have you tried palpating her ventral side ? I've never seen a gravid Elapid but in Colubrids, in advanced pregnancy, if you just tail a snake and look at it, the individual eggs should be quite clear on her ventral side and you don't even have to palpate...
Anyway, I hope she is pregnant and I hope you have a nice healthy clutch and babies ! | |
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Patrick Waffek
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 160
Age : 46
Location : Osnabrück, Germany
Points : 5321
Registration date : 2010-06-07
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Wed 22 Dec - 3:01 | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=hciGjWY-z10 | |
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Miro Voutilainen
Newbie
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Age : 106
Location : earth
Points : 4924
Registration date : 2010-12-23
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Thu 23 Dec - 21:53 | |
| - Patrick Waffek wrote:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=hciGjWY-z10
Nice footage of really nice individual. Wish you best of luck with her! /M | |
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Patrick Waffek
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 160
Age : 46
Location : Osnabrück, Germany
Points : 5321
Registration date : 2010-06-07
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Mon 3 Jan - 0:58 | |
| Ok. she was pregnant. I got home from work last night and look what i found....  | |
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Stefan Wennekes
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 157
Age : 36
Location : Netherlands
Points : 5707
Registration date : 2009-07-01
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Mon 3 Jan - 1:46 | |
| Very nice Patrick.
Congratulations !!
Good luck with the incubation | |
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Nigel Sowter
Snakemaster
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Age : 60
Location : Australia
Points : 5413
Registration date : 2010-11-29
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Mon 3 Jan - 7:28 | |
| [quote="Patrick Waffek"]Ok. she was pregnant.
I got home from work last night and look what i found....
Ha Ha, sure they aren't white droppings!
Congrats, mum is stunning, how many eggs? first clutch for her? | |
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Kevin Prahl
Newbie
Number of posts : 14
Age : 47
Location : Sweden
Points : 4912
Registration date : 2010-12-25
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Mon 3 Jan - 16:29 | |
| Congrats on those eggs!!
How many were there in total? | |
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Patrick Waffek
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 160
Age : 46
Location : Osnabrück, Germany
Points : 5321
Registration date : 2010-06-07
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Wed 5 Jan - 14:27 | |
| Hey guys.
Yes it was her first clutch. She layed 24 eggs in total.
19 good and 5 slugs.
Now waiting till the end of february... | |
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Kelly Chabak
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 348
Age : 55
Location : Phoenix, Az
Points : 5362
Registration date : 2010-09-29
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Wed 5 Jan - 23:14 | |
| Good luck!!!! Thats wonderful:) | |
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Carlos Villalba
Newbie
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Location : spain
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Registration date : 2010-11-26
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Thu 6 Jan - 4:35 | |
| congratulations¡¡¡¡¡  | |
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Stefan Anthonijsz
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 556
Age : 37
Location : the Netherlands
Points : 6132
Registration date : 2009-09-29
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Thu 6 Jan - 8:50 | |
| Congrats! Good luck with them! | |
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Miro Voutilainen
Newbie
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Age : 106
Location : earth
Points : 4924
Registration date : 2010-12-23
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Thu 6 Jan - 16:21 | |
| Really nice. Stunning mum.
Best of luck with the incubation.
/M | |
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Patrick Waffek
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 160
Age : 46
Location : Osnabrück, Germany
Points : 5321
Registration date : 2010-06-07
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Fri 18 Feb - 23:12 | |
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Peter Zürcher
Admin
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Age : 72
Location : Carinthia, Austria
Points : 8127
Registration date : 2008-03-06
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sat 19 Feb - 0:01 | |
| well - congrats, Patrick!
very short incubation period - 48 days (or actually 1 - 2 days less if we take in account that they remain a while in their shells after cutting off) - is that right?
What temperatures did you use?
Very interesting - i never managed to get Najas out before 63 - 65 days....as you wrote you'd have to wait until the end of February - i even would have expended that to the beginning of March.
best regards
Peter | |
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Patrick Waffek
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 160
Age : 46
Location : Osnabrück, Germany
Points : 5321
Registration date : 2010-06-07
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sat 19 Feb - 3:15 | |
| Hello Peter,
this was the first time i incubate kouthia eggs, so i looked at the schedule from the book of Günther Köhler - "Inkubation von Reptilieneiern", which says 48-56 days with temeratures at 29-30 degrees celsius.
But my main projects is to breed reticulated pythons so i put the eggs into the incubator for my retic eggs, which is at 30-32 degree celsius.
In periods of some days i looked at the eggs and they seem to be good. So I thought this must be the right parameters for incubation.
Now i know it´s ok.
Thanks Peter.
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Niels van den Hooff
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Location : the Netherlands
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| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sat 19 Feb - 6:13 | |
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Tom Charlton
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 68
Age : 37
Location : England
Points : 5906
Registration date : 2008-07-04
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sat 19 Feb - 8:35 | |
| Great work Patrick, i am expecting eggs from one of my females any day now. - Peter Zürcher wrote:
- well - congrats, Patrick!
very short incubation period - 48 days (or actually 1 - 2 days less if we take in account that they remain a while in their shells after cutting off) - is that right?
What temperatures did you use?
Very interesting - i never managed to get Najas out before 63 - 65 days....as you wrote you'd have to wait until the end of February - i even would have expended that to the beginning of March.
Last year my 2 Naja kaouthia clutches started hatching out at 47 days and 50 days. These were also incubated at 29-30C | |
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Jorg Schenkels
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| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sat 19 Feb - 18:33 | |
| realy nice mate good luck with razing them upp..
gr jorg | |
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Chaim Haveman
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 303
Age : 44
Location : Netherlands
Points : 5486
Registration date : 2010-05-08
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sat 19 Feb - 20:17 | |
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Randy Ciuros
Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 585
Age : 63
Location : North Florida, USA
Points : 6446
Registration date : 2008-03-18
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sat 19 Feb - 22:19 | |
| Congrats Patrick,
Good looking hatchlings. My first clutch of kaouthia this year have only been incubating for 20 days, so I have a while to go.
Peter Z: Last year my 2 clutches of kaouthia hatched out in 64 and 65 days, as you stated is your experience, and I incubated at 26.6 - 27.2 C.
Randy | |
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Sebastian Arvidsson
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Location : Sweden
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Registration date : 2011-02-13
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sat 19 Feb - 23:12 | |
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Joe Lesh
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 41
Age : 44
Location : South Carolina, USA
Points : 5345
Registration date : 2009-11-15
| | Subject: Re: Naja kaouthia - pregnant ?? Sun 20 Feb - 3:56 | |
| That is great brother! The one looks to have some abberant markings? My clutch was laid a day before yours I have been incubating around 28.8c - 30.0c I am expecting some pipping in the next week or so. I have my fingers crossed for a good success rate with the 13 eggs in there now. Congrats with a great clutch!
Joe | |
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