Let's try it again...

First step to breed Parias mcgregori has been done today; after she spent 3 days hidden between moss and soil on the bottom of the terrarium, my yellow tiger female laid 8 to 10 well looking eggs.
Let's try it again... Mcgegg10

Sorry, due to the setup in the cage and in order not to disturb the lady, no better picture could be taken.
Eggs are twice the size as those from last years clutch laid by the snow female.
Cheers
Peter

Great news, Peter! Congratulation!
A lot of work has to be done, but as you said, without this first step there wouldn`t be even a chance. There could be even more eggs as 10, but that`s just wild guess!
Seeing success of Jorg, I am pretty possitive about your luck and success with these as well...

We keep our fingers crossed for you over here...

All the best,
Peter P.

PS: I can`t wait to have our specimens over us ... Wink

Whoauuu...

well.... what can i say?
i am happy, i am very happy peter, and you know its true.
how many times in the past i have been told philippine snakes cant kept alive - breeding them is not even to think about it...

i talked and talked to folks, i have written lots of papers and published - but still - now success. i received a email from a well known herpetologist and hot keeper from the US, he ask my help - as they have no success whatsoever in breeding parias mcgregori....

after i told him what to do, he was just laughing about me - "are you serious? i keep crotalids for more than 20 years, have not heard such thing:"
there you go - do what you want man!

jörg and you keep asking and listening... thats why it works here...

cool - i am proud of you!!!

well - dont you panicking now, the incubation is the difficult part... let the mum doit, dont you dare take the eggs into an incubator!!!
let here do it and just watch them growing, the eggs looks good and all is prepared.. i cross my finger, but i know there will be a success this time, just keep cool my good friend! you are the first guy, breeding parias mcgregori outside the philippines if everything goes well... i mean breeding - not having babies from WC moms and killing them by wrong incubation technics..

cool - i have my Jack Daniels now and i be patience enough to wait and see how it goes...

thanks Peter - thanks Jörg - you boys made my day bright today!

i will add another picture to keep you motivated:

Let's try it again... Mcgreg14

thats how it will look like in one and a half month at your place, isnt cute???

cheers
Mario

Congratulations and best of luck to you, Peter! cheers

Congrats Peter! It's great to see.
chris

Congrats. Wish u all the best Peter.

Hello Peter,

I´m sure this time it works and next time we meet we should take a drink or two or... on each baby we got.

Congratulation.

Jörg

Amazing colored animals!
Good luck with the eggs.

Cheers,
Harold

Quote :: we should take a drink or two or... on each baby we got.

That's going to be a serious intoxication with your babies alone, Jörg! If I'll have the luck to bring some of the mcgregoris out of egg, we won't survive it! drunken

by the way: how about more flavo-pictures?

Thanks to all of you for your good wishes!
It's up to the female now, it looks like she knows what to do.
My job is to keep the moisture at the right level, and to hope.
Cheers
Peter

mario,
can you explane me why the female should breed the eggs instade using a incubater

nobody can explain it really Kai,

i have breed around 800 Mcgregor Pit-Vipers so far, all of them true natural incubation and have never had any problems. we try it also artificial, with different temps, humids etc.pp- all this attempts failed. babies not well developed, or just was not hatching at all.

same observations have done Gumprecht (Parias mcgregori), Klusmeyer (Parias flavomaculatus)...

there should be a way to incubate them artificially, but i am not the one who will find out anymore... thats for sure, natural incubation works very well for me and for others to..

just check the flavo posting (if our jörg ever will let us know and update us), you will see it is with this species exactly the same..

cheers
Mario

just a short update today:
Eggs still looking good (white and stout), at least those small parts one can see from time to time.
As I told you, everything happens hidden under moss, and the female's reaction on every disturbance comes out very defensive and angry.
The place where the eggs have been laid is just above one of the heating mats, where temperatures can reach up to 40 degrees Celsius, so I switched it off and started to heat the whole room with a small fan heater.
Temperatures are 26 to 28 degrees at daytime, dropping down to 23 to 25 degrees nightly.
Nervy greetings
Peter

dont be so nervy... everything sounds good to me, make sure the humidity is above 85% inside the terrarium (by the way, i use to spray - sometime directly on the female without killing the eggs!) and keep the temperature at this level... not higher than 28°C peter! they can take 24, but 29°C is critical already!

wait for about 4 weeks, then give the female a pre-killed mouse - my females usually take food while incubating... but dont feed them to much, she will pup on the eggs, and that means almost all times, you can forget about them!

cheers
and all my fingers are crossed peter!

Mario

Quote :: i use to spray - sometime directly on the female without killing the eggs!

That's exactly what I wanted to hear from you, Mario!
Balancing moisture (enough for the female and the eggs, but not too much) seems to be the most difficult part.
Cheers
Peter

Hey Peter
what about the eggs? You have a little update for us?

A friend of me breed this year Parias mcgregori in Germany...
6 white babies...

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