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http://www.animalsasia.org/share2friends.php?UID=VL9YBXH71BB
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Guenter

I fully agree, what do these people think bout?

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Just when you think that you've seen it all... This transcends any definition of cruelty and callousness that I can think of. There are times when I am embarrassed to be a member of the Human race. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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Översättning från svenska till engelska
one of the worst I've seen, the panic o anxiety they poor animals must have, horrible
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one of the worst I've seen, the panic o anxiety they poor animals must have, horrible
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Sickening
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Jon Davidson wrote:
...There are times when I am embarrassed to be a member of the Human race. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .


I agree Jon. The perpetrators of this artrocity should simply be lined up and executed. From the guy(s) that thought of it, to the manufacturers, marketers, wholesalers ... the entire supply chain right down to the customer!
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PostSubject: Re: Just disgusting   Just disgusting Icon_minitimeMon 18 Apr - 18:56

Scotty Allen wrote:
Jon Davidson wrote:
...There are times when I am embarrassed to be a member of the Human race. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .


I agree Jon. The perpetrators of this artrocity should simply be lined up and executed. From the guy(s) that thought of it, to the manufacturers, marketers, wholesalers ... the entire supply chain right down to the customer!

I don't agree.
Treat animals like that is awful and disgusting but the execution of humans is another category, sorry. It seems to be far to easy to kill humans on this planet in so many countries.

I second Jon's statement.
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PostSubject: Re: Just disgusting   Just disgusting Icon_minitimeMon 18 Apr - 20:04

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The perpetrators of this artrocity should simply be lined up and executed.

That's definitely NOT the style i wanna see here in our discussions!

No death penalty discussion here, gents, back to topic, or this thread will be closed!
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PostSubject: Re: Just disgusting   Just disgusting Icon_minitimeMon 18 Apr - 20:13

There are too many humans though!

Anyway enough of that.

This is horrible. I can't see how anyone would find that cute.
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PostSubject: Re: Just disgusting   Just disgusting Icon_minitimeMon 18 Apr - 22:03

I bet the people here who are against killing humans would sing a different tune if their 8 year old daughter or their 80 year old mother/grandmother was raped, sodomized, tortured and killed by some degenerate. People are NOT dealt with severly enough for their actions. That is why people have no problem commiting atrocities, towards people or animals.
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PostSubject: Re: Just disgusting   Just disgusting Icon_minitimeMon 18 Apr - 23:34

Randy Ciuros wrote:
I bet the people here who are against killing humans would sing a different tune if their 8 year old daughter or their 80 year old mother/grandmother was raped, sodomized, tortured and killed by some degenerate.

Stupid argument. If that happened to You (or me), You could not be an impartial or objective judge. But that is the basement of any good justice system. I do not know how You handle that in US but in Europe we are proud on an impartial justice.
What You propose here is Lynch Justice. Do You wan't Your neighbour be the judge himself if he suits You with anything (like lawn mawing on sundays e.g.)?

Sorry Peter for the off topic, but I can't stand that kind of argumentation.
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I want people to be responsible for their actions and accept the consequences. If you rape and kill a child, you should be killed. Eye for an eye. Letting people literally get away with murder is just wrong. The left-wing liberal judges in USA let child rapists off with little or no jail time. Even repeat offenders. How is right? If the penalty for child molestation was death, maybe people would think twice, and more children would be safe, and society would not have to kill the person.
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PostSubject: Re: Just disgusting   Just disgusting Icon_minitimeMon 18 Apr - 23:44

I know it is needless to discuss that with right wingers and / or US conservatives. Don't take the absence of another statement from me as agreement. Death penalty seems to be OK for US, China, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, and such countries. Luckily most Europeans have another point of view. That is no judgement, just remembering where this penalty is still in use ...
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PostSubject: Re: Just disgusting   Just disgusting Icon_minitimeMon 18 Apr - 23:48

Guenter Leitenbauer wrote:
I know it is needless to discuss that with right wingers and / or US conservatives. Don't take the absence of another statement from me as agreement. Death penalty seems to be OK for US, China, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, and such countries. Luckily most Europeans have another point of view. That is no judgement, just remembering where this penalty is still in use ...

Just getting it wrong once (which they of course have done) is justification enough not to have it IMO. Anyway this is going way off topic. Sorry all. Oh wait it's your thread so it's not that bad Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Just disgusting   Just disgusting Icon_minitimeMon 18 Apr - 23:50

It is needless to discuss it with anyone who believes in being responsible for ones actions. If you believe no one should be killed no matter what evil they do, that is your problem, and that is why the world has the problems we have. Of course Saddam Hussein killing his own people because because they disagree with him and want to be free, is ok in your mind.

It is not ok to do what you want, to whoever you want, and not pay the price for your actions.

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PostSubject: Re: Just disgusting   Just disgusting Icon_minitimeTue 19 Apr - 2:17

I am a person that is really "left" minded but I totally agree with Randy! If you do very bad things to other people or animals you should get very hard punished for it. Not just a few years in jail!
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PostSubject: Re: Just disgusting   Just disgusting Icon_minitimeTue 19 Apr - 3:35

I really do not like to act as an authority here, but:
thread closed!
Let's go back to our hobby/profession and the things we love...
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