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Tobias Angel
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Fabian Dirks
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| Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help  Wed 22 Jun - 2:04 | |
| There are several sp in Tanzania
maybe hoplogaster | |
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PeterMagnusson
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Wed 22 Jun - 2:09 | |
| I saw them at Norrköping expo. Wildcaught animals from tropikhuset right? | |
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Tobias Angel
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Wed 22 Jun - 4:39 | |
| - PeterMagnusson wrote:
- I saw them at Norrköping expo. Wildcaught animals from tropikhuset right?
Yes its them. Tropikhuset told me they where cb from germany but when i got home i noticed they had parasites and wounds... But they are looking good now  | |
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Tobias Angel
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Wed 22 Jun - 7:50 | |
| I got an answer on sareptiles. He told me its irregularis and he was sure http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=138&t=26271&p=211314#p211314 Thank you for the help | |
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PeterMagnusson
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Wed 22 Jun - 15:07 | |
| Perfect, Hope you get them to breed in future  | |
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Tobias Angel
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Wed 22 Jun - 22:04 | |
| Yes, I hope they will breed. I've heard they should be easy to breed.
It's realy cool snakes. this pair is very calm, They dont even try to get away when you grab them (unlike other philothamnus i've seen). | |
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Fabian Dirks
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Wed 22 Jun - 22:14 | |
| Hi Tobias,
there was changes in taxonomy
as far as I know P. irregularis is not located in Tanzania
The ssp / synonym P.irregularis battersbyi , now P. battersbyi is located in Tanzania, but maybe a sp. from border .
cheers Fabian | |
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Tobias Angel
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Thu 23 Jun - 1:14 | |
| If you look at this map irregularis goes in to Tanzania...
http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/177439/0
My friend got a battersbyi but it has not the same scalation on the head. | |
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Fabian Dirks
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Thu 23 Jun - 1:47 | |
| Your source - Quote :
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Central African Republic; Chad; Côte d'Ivoire; Ethiopia; Gambia; Ghana; Guinea-Bissau; Mali; Namibia; Niger; Senegal; Togo; Zambia; Zimbabwe
P. irregularisDistribution S Sudan, Ethiopia, Chad, Niger, Mali, Senegal, Central African Republic, Cameroon, Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda, Burundi, Rwanda, Mozambique, Republic of South Africa (Natal), Zambia, Zimbabwe, Botswana ?, Namibia, Zaire, Gambia (HÅKANSSON 1981), Ivory Coast (Rödel et al. 1999), Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Burkina Faso, Togo, Benin Philothamnus battersbyi syn Philothamnus irregularis battersbyi — LOVERIDGE 1955 E Uganda, Cameroon (?), E Sudan, Ethiopia, Somalia, south through Uganda and Kenya to NE Tanzania. Type locality: Sipi forest, Mount Elgon, Uganda. source: http://reptile-database.reptarium.cz rgds Fabian | |
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Tobias Angel
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Mon 27 Jun - 3:50 | |
| Sorry i havn't anwered you. I don't think the philothamnus battersby have the black mouth...
But ill send a message to the guy hwo imported the snakes and ask him for the locality...
//Tobbe | |
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Fabian Dirks
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Mon 27 Jun - 4:08 | |
| interior of mouth black, ventrals not bumpy, 158-186 ventrals: irregularis
interior of mouth light-colored, ventrals bumpy, 187-209 ventrals: semivariegatus
Here is one key for this species. Nice snake by the way. Cross fingers for you.
I do not know if there are other species with a black mouth. | |
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Tobias Angel
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Tue 28 Jun - 18:34 | |
| Ill count the scales as soon as i can I talked to Tropikhuset and this philothamnus isn't from the import I've been told... So the locality may not be tanzania... sorry for that... I asked them to send contact information or if they could contact him but i havn't got an answer yet... //Tobbe | |
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NiekHofman
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Sat 20 Aug - 19:43 | |
| Nice animal! I have tried to PM you 2 times about the Philothamnus..But I get no answer from you while you have been online...SO maybe you will be able to answer me here in your topic.. I also have a Philothamnus and the same species as you. I tried feeding it with different prey items but no succes yet. I assist feed it with pinky mice and pieces of chicken. What does your animal eat?? WHat is the temp and humid. that you keep it on and cage setup. please tell me .
Cheers niek | |
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Tobias Angel
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Wed 24 Aug - 16:03 | |
| NiekHofman i've sent you a PM | |
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NiekHofman
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Thu 25 Aug - 1:36 | |
| - Tobias Angel wrote:
- NiekHofman i've sent you a PM
thanks | |
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Caroline Strom
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| | Subject: Re: Philothamnus spp. id help Sun 18 Sep - 23:42 | |
| The Philothamnus in the photo is not battersbyi, that much i can help i right now. Good luck with your new snakes. All though i wuld not see there calmness as a good sign in any philothamnus species that is WC and has not lived in captivity for over a year  These are grate snakes, i know for sure.. but they are tricky. Greetings Caroline | |
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