| Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem | |
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+6Charles Bolen Graeme Skinner Michael Bollhorn Bob Herrington Christian Bihrer Pablo Azcarate 10 posters |
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Pablo Azcarate Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 33 Location : San Jose, Costa Rica Points : 4591 Registration date : 2011-10-17
| Subject: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 5:56 | |
| Hello, I just bought a baby shelegii Bothriechis, the problem is very small. baby mouse is very large and can not eat, how to eat? | |
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Christian Bihrer Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 35 Location : Germany, Cologne Points : 4946 Registration date : 2010-10-28
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 7:38 | |
| Hi, I've used pieces of a baby mouse ... I took a lot of time and patience but it worked. Much success with the youngster!! Regards Christian | |
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Pablo Azcarate Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 33 Location : San Jose, Costa Rica Points : 4591 Registration date : 2011-10-17
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 7:57 | |
| tnks Christian, I can only use parts of a baby mouse? or I can use parts of a larger mouse? | |
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Christian Bihrer Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 35 Location : Germany, Cologne Points : 4946 Registration date : 2010-10-28
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 10:13 | |
| Of course you can also take parts of a larger mouse ... It was at my schlegeliis very time consuming. But now they are very greedy .. best for a good half hour to one hour after the light is off and was sprayed ... these are at least my experience .. others may had more luck from the start, but my animals apparently had special wishes | |
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Bob Herrington Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 159 Age : 76 Location : USA Points : 5709 Registration date : 2009-02-26
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 10:36 | |
| Use just the head of a day old pinky mouse. Gently tease the snake until it latches on to the head first. The shape makes it difficult (but not impossible) to shake out and most will go ahead and swallow it. Four or five of these at 5-7 day intervals and it may be able for the whole pinky. | |
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Pablo Azcarate Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 33 Location : San Jose, Costa Rica Points : 4591 Registration date : 2011-10-17
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 12:16 | |
| Thank you both for the tips ..! It's okay if I give the mouse thigh 2 weeks old? | |
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Michael Bollhorn Snakemaster
Number of posts : 286 Age : 51 Location : Hamburg / Germany Points : 6139 Registration date : 2008-05-05
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 14:24 | |
| Normally you start with pieces like legs. After 5 or 6 times you can feed half pinkies... If you cut the pieces from the frozen, you can feed the rest later! | |
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Graeme Skinner Snakemaster
Number of posts : 466 Age : 63 Location : Yorkshire, England Points : 6198 Registration date : 2009-02-19
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 15:28 | |
| I have always used strips of beef heart.
Cut narrow strips and tease the snake untill it latches on. If that fails assist the snake by pushing a strip into its mouth.
Good luck | |
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Pablo Azcarate Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 33 Location : San Jose, Costa Rica Points : 4591 Registration date : 2011-10-17
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 17:26 | |
| hi Greame skinner, I was watching your videos where you feed the sidewinder! use is the beef heart? boil it?
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Pablo Azcarate Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 33 Location : San Jose, Costa Rica Points : 4591 Registration date : 2011-10-17
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 17:40 | |
| does not contain much fat the beef heart? | |
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Charles Bolen Newbie
Number of posts : 5 Age : 50 Location : US/SC Points : 4592 Registration date : 2011-10-08
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Thu 20 Oct - 23:55 | |
| - Pablo Azcarate wrote:
- does not contain much fat the beef heart?
Beef heart contains very little fat. As far as feeding the baby eyelash, I would follow Dr. Bob's advice and use the heads. They are football shaped and stick in the mouth well. Additionally I would believe that the head would have more nutrients than the legs. Good luck!!! Dr. Bob--See you in a few weeks! Charles B. | |
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Graeme Skinner Snakemaster
Number of posts : 466 Age : 63 Location : Yorkshire, England Points : 6198 Registration date : 2009-02-19
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Fri 21 Oct - 4:13 | |
| - Pablo Azcarate wrote:
- hi Greame skinner, I was watching your videos where you feed the sidewinder!
use is the beef heart? boil it?
I use it raw and also with vitamin suppliments, seems to work well for me Keep up the hard work Graeme | |
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Pablo Azcarate Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 33 Location : San Jose, Costa Rica Points : 4591 Registration date : 2011-10-17
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Fri 21 Oct - 6:05 | |
| - Graeme Skinner wrote:
- Pablo Azcarate wrote:
- hi Greame skinner, I was watching your videos where you feed the sidewinder!
use is the beef heart? boil it?
I use it raw and also with vitamin suppliments, seems to work well for me
Keep up the hard work
Graeme which supplement? as applied in the beef? how often I can give beef heart? | |
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Graeme Skinner Snakemaster
Number of posts : 466 Age : 63 Location : Yorkshire, England Points : 6198 Registration date : 2009-02-19
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Sat 22 Oct - 2:59 | |
| I've used it a couple of times a week to get them "going" and quickly onto pinkie mice.
I find the strips of heart useful with very small neonates as it can easily be pushed into the snakes mouth without causing any damage.
Once they start swallowing on their own that is the point I change to pinkies. | |
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Pablo Azcarate Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 33 Location : San Jose, Costa Rica Points : 4591 Registration date : 2011-10-17
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Sat 22 Oct - 15:27 | |
| Thanks, I gave him a piece of beef heart, how often I give him??? when I have time I upload photos and 1 video! | |
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April Mandel Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 128 Age : 74 Location : Eastern USA Points : 4923 Registration date : 2011-04-23
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Sun 23 Oct - 3:18 | |
| You can also use tail sections from adult mice. A short piece of tail has both meat and bone and is easy for a baby to eat until it grows larger and can accept thighs without fur and then pinks. | |
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Gustav Eloy Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 662 Age : 37 Location : Aguascalientes, Mexico Points : 5710 Registration date : 2010-09-09
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Sun 23 Oct - 6:59 | |
| Hi how is your snake doing?? hope he or she is eating with uot trouble, the one that I have was big enough to eat baby pinkie so I didn´t got any troubles feeding. The only recomendation I can give you is try to feed not to often and let him/her alone, don´t provoque any more strees from the one that he/she allready may have.
best wishes and keep updating.
regards | |
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Pablo Azcarate Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 33 Location : San Jose, Costa Rica Points : 4591 Registration date : 2011-10-17
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Mon 24 Oct - 2:46 | |
| Hi, bad news, today my Bothriechis vomiting what I fed him 3 days ago, why??? be very large because I gave him? inappropriate or size?? | |
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Pablo Azcarate Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 33 Location : San Jose, Costa Rica Points : 4591 Registration date : 2011-10-17
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Mon 24 Oct - 2:50 | |
| What do I do? parameters are temperature between 24 and 28, humidity between 75% - 80% | |
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Gustav Eloy Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 662 Age : 37 Location : Aguascalientes, Mexico Points : 5710 Registration date : 2010-09-09
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Tue 25 Oct - 3:44 | |
| Hi sorry to hear that, well it all depends on the cause of why he or she did vomited, probably it was only strees or handling, or like you said inproper size ormaybe because of it age the beef was too much for it, it could be parasites, have you seen if it has diarrea or something else?? I really sugest you to keep him her very well hydratated and let him to calmdown keep a close eye on for any sing of illness.
Best Regards | |
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Pablo Azcarate Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 33 Location : San Jose, Costa Rica Points : 4591 Registration date : 2011-10-17
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Tue 25 Oct - 12:35 | |
| What I did was put it in water at 27 degrees Celsius for 15 minutes and 7 minutes after defecating and urinating in the water with a little serum to hydrate, I plan to leave it for 10 days without moving or disturbing to see how evolution are saying? | |
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Seb Capdevielle Newbie
Number of posts : 29 Age : 44 Location : Dreux - FRANCE Points : 4625 Registration date : 2011-10-02
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Fri 28 Oct - 17:54 | |
| I used to feed mine with mouse tail parts with beef heart slice around so it is esay for them to swallow and it has always been working fine!
That's how I do... | |
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Renáta Libová
Number of posts : 2 Age : 46 Location : Czech Republic Points : 4123 Registration date : 2013-01-16
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Michael Bollhorn Snakemaster
Number of posts : 286 Age : 51 Location : Hamburg / Germany Points : 6139 Registration date : 2008-05-05
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Mon 20 Oct - 6:28 | |
| Very interesting colors!
Wait one week and you can start. | |
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Renáta Libová
Number of posts : 2 Age : 46 Location : Czech Republic Points : 4123 Registration date : 2013-01-16
| Subject: Re: Bothriechis schlegelii, baby problem Tue 21 Oct - 0:32 | |
| O.K. Thanks...
At the end of this week I´ll try it. | |
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