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PostSubject: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeFri 18 Nov - 14:58

Two weeks ago we got a call out to a service station for a snake in a car engine.
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Turns out the owner of the car had been touring the Tankwa Karoo and on arrival in Cape Town decided to have his oil checked. When the attendant opened the bonnet of the car this guy reared up and spat at his face, the venom caught the gentleman on the side of the face.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeFri 18 Nov - 15:32

Seems they like catching lifts in cars, there was a similar story when I was working in the Northern Cape. This has to be my all time favourite cobra species, I was lucky enough to be able to keep a few of them and they really are a pleasure. Are you going to be able to keep this one? I know the Western Cape Nature Conservation is very difficult but surely they can make an exception in a case like this?
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeFri 18 Nov - 16:32

That is a beautiful specimen. One of my few favorite African species. How can I get some of those?
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeFri 18 Nov - 16:40

Cape nature has agreed to allow this animal to go into sanctuary. It should be moving by next week.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeFri 18 Nov - 19:33

I just made a comment on another forum stating that Cape nature is not heartless... this proves it. Thanks Cape nature and well done on the rescue.


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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeFri 18 Nov - 21:07

Beautiful woodi
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeFri 18 Nov - 23:10

it is a nice snake and turn to the owner did not get the venom in the eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeSat 19 Nov - 7:35

WOW! I like the look of that. Don't get to see those down here in Australia. Are they always this colour? do they come in black & yellow?-my favorite colours. I think a trip to South Africa is in order. Cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeSun 20 Nov - 0:29

Uhhhh what a beauty
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeWed 30 Nov - 0:18

The coolest of all cobras ,I'm trying for a permit to keep some but they are very hard to get .I wish i could have a surprise like that under my hood,awesome pics by the way,Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeThu 1 Dec - 0:32

Absolutely stunning!
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Aug - 3:34

the most beautiful african cobra
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Aug - 4:00

A very nice specimen indeed.
by the way - it's scientific name is Naja nigricincta woodi.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Aug - 4:20

Peter Zürcher wrote:
A very nice specimen indeed.
by the way - it's scientific name is Naja nigricincta woodi.

how many nigricollis subspecies does exist Peter?
its a bit confusing.
in the past woodi was a nigricollis subspecie right?
and what about naja atriceps?
why is it so complicated
it seems that some sientists change the names over and over again.

Naja nigricollis nigricincta Bogert 1940
Naja nigricollis var. fasciata Bocage 1895
Naja mossambica nigricincta Broadley 1968
Naja mossambica woodi Broadley 1968
Naja nigricollis woodi Broadley 1974
Naja woodi Bauer & Branch 2003

please help Peter.

cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Aug - 4:42

There are no nigricollis subspecies anymore.
Naja nigricollis atriceps has been described as a subspecies of Naja nigricollis and is regarded as a synonym of the latter nowadays.

Our planet was believed to be a disc once.....
Some Naja species belonged to the genus Coluber once....

Understanding the nature and it's creatures and their relationships may look complicated to many people, but what scientist are doing with their "changings over and over again" is coming closer to the truth .......

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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Aug - 4:53

Peter Zürcher wrote:
There are no nigricollis subspecies anymore.
Naja nigricollis atriceps has been described as a subspecies of Naja nigricollis and is regarded as a synonym of the latter nowadays.

Our planet was believed to be a disc once.....
Some Naja species belonged to the genus Coluber once....

Understanding the nature and it's creatures and their relationships may look complicated to many people, but what scientist are doing with their "changings over and over again" is coming closer to the truth .......

regards
Peter

what do you always found something nice words to explain Very Happy
thanx Peter crystal clear to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Aug - 14:26

Hi Peter

Thank you for giving me that name change. All the reference books I have here have not been updated. The Spitter was placed in a suitable facility as we could not narrow down its point of origin well enough to get permission from the authorities to release.
At the moment we are still in Winter and the snakes are for the most part hibernating but we have still had a few puff adders and the odd cape cobra being picked up due to poor choices of hibernation spots( normally inside someones home or garage.)
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Aug - 15:46

Hello all,
I can advise you the book "Venomous Snakes of Africa" (2007) from TerraLog serie (Chimaira edition). It is updated and there is always a word about taxonomy changes.


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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Aug - 17:13

The 2007 - issue (don't know if there's a newer one) isn't up-to-date.
Wether Naja ashei nor Naja senegalensis are included, and Naja haje is still splitted in different subspecies including Naja haje legionis.
Beside this, annulata and christyi are still treated as Boulengerina spp., and Naja multifasciata as Paranaja sp.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja nigricollis woodi   Naja nigricollis woodi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Aug - 18:13

That's right,
I just think about the "Naja nigricincta woodi" in particular.
In the introduction, the authors tell a word about the investigations concerning the African cobras. I was just thinking that this book is interesting to have for any snake-keepers.
Thank you for your precisions.

Regards

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