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Guenter Leitenbauer
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PostSubject: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeMon 24 Sep - 15:06

http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/3-Tage-Kampf-um-sein-Leben/79269396

What I heard, he lost his finger sadly.
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeMon 24 Sep - 18:22

Bites to digits by viperids is often a problem, when there is no AV given. A couple of years ago my wife (who is a physician) and I were involved in the treatment of a bite to the right hand index finger by a juvenile (few days old) Bitis gabonica. At that time there was no AV immediatetly available, and frankly, we were guessing that a bite by such a small snake would not produce any serious problems. However, the victim developed a venom-induced consumptive coagulopathy and thrombocyte loss (incoaguable blood) that lasted several days, and the index finger finally had to be amputated.
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeMon 24 Sep - 19:15

Hi all.
Till now Marcos finger isn´t gone!
They have to wait, till his bloodquality is in better condition. Then the doctors will decide if his finger could be saved or not.

I wish him much luck for no amputation!
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeMon 24 Sep - 20:05

I don't know anything about the bite and it's circumstances and surely i'm wishing good and soon recovery.
Nevertheless, my surprise is usually quite limited if someone who handles venomous snakes with bare hands gets bitten.........i remember a picture of the victim's hand holding a juvenile Bitis gabonica....
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeMon 24 Sep - 20:34

The last sentence was the best!
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeTue 25 Sep - 18:12

Hello

So the minds here to reassure forum. Mr. P has held no snake in your hand. It was an unfortunate accident during clean-up operations and in a moment of inattention. Mr. P is not finger amputated and he is concerned with the circumstances very well he could leave the hospital and return to his family. I'm glad that all is healing expired. Mr. P is know a very responsible owner with a large. There was never a risk compared to the third.

Best regards

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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeTue 25 Sep - 22:06

Christian Hennemann wrote:
... a very responsible owner with a large.
Wow, that's nice to hear.

Wink Peter
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeTue 25 Sep - 22:11

:-D
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeWed 26 Sep - 20:12

Christian Hennemann wrote:
Mr. P has held no snake in your hand

No, luckily not in mine! :-D
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeThu 27 Sep - 2:44

Christian Hennemann wrote:
'... and in a moment of inattention...'
I think that we could all agree that that is a certainty... Perhaps when 'Mr. P' is released from the Hospital and has had a chance to recover he could come here to Venomland and explain the context of his behaviour that resulted in a bite to his finger from a captive venomous snake? In doing so, 'Mr. P' might provide a valuable lesson to the younger generation of venomous snake keeping fellows here on the site. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeThu 27 Sep - 3:09

Hi all,
i talked to him yesterday. He thanks all of you for your recovery-greetings.
It was no freehandling etc. It happened during feeding his Eristicophis Macmahoni.
It was just a accident and nothing else!

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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeThu 27 Sep - 5:01

Hi

Thank you Michael for your explanation, I think I will not be misunderstood here. I am in regular contact with Mr P if anyone has questions they can ask me and I will be happy to discuss these issues with Mr P and then answer. Why not here Mr. P. is probably because of the administration .......

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Christian Hennemann wrote:
' I am in regular contact with Mr P if anyone has questions they can ask me and I will be happy to discuss these issues with Mr P and then answer. Why not here Mr. P. is probably because of the administration ....... '

One would think that 'Mr. P' would prefer to speak for himself, after he recovers, of course- and I would imagine that the administration here would give him that opportunity. However, I suppose that we can all understand how this individual would prefer to not speak directly about the incident. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeThu 27 Sep - 19:02

http://www.venom-paradise.at/bi%C3%9Funfall-16-09-2012-eristicopis-macmahoni/

"his dangerous hobby could cost an Upper Austrians life"

hopefully not - according to some postings here at least not in this case.
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PostSubject: Re: Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeFri 28 Sep - 1:04

Hi Peter.

How can I interpret your last sentence? Understand him, unfortunately not what you mean?
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PostSubject: serious snakebite in upper austria   Serious Snakebite in Upper Austria Icon_minitimeSat 29 Sep - 3:47

m.p may not mean anything because he is not a member on venomland

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