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Mario Schweiger
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 53
Age : 72
Location : Obertrum, Salzburg, Austria
Points : 5741
Registration date : 2008-09-14
| Subject: asking for condolence  Fri 19 Sep - 14:55 | |
| Hello, I have to tell the herper world, that one of the oldest Vipera ammodytes, born in captivity died before a few month.  Picture done on April 20th, 2008 She was born by a wildcaught gravid female from the Larissa area, Greece in July 1979 and died at the beginning of July this year. So she gots nearly 29 years old. May she have a good time in snake heaven! Does anybody know of a Vipera ammodytes of same age or even older? Mario | |
| | | | Markus Gottlieb
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 262
Age : 33
Location : Upper Austria
Points : 5983
Registration date : 2008-08-11
| | Subject: Re: asking for condolence Fri 19 Sep - 15:36 | |
| Hi Mario,
On the one hand, it's sad, but on the other hand: wow, that's really old!
I can imagine that in the long time she was with you, she somehow was attached to your heart.
Rest in Peace, old snake mum
(I don't know any older ammodytes)
Greetings,
Markus | |
| | | | Rainer Fesser
Systematicus
Number of posts : 565
Age : 74
Location : Austria
Points : 6496
Registration date : 2008-03-13
| | Subject: Re: asking for condolence Sat 20 Sep - 4:57 | |
| Hi Mario,
29 years is a really good age for V. amm. From my experience I would say, normal life expectancy is 15 - 20 years, I had several getting 25-28 years old, my oldest ones were 30 and 31 years old when they died. Their parents were from Montenegro.
In a place in Croatia I have been watching many V. amm. in front of their hibernation sites every year for 19 years now. Several males that I found there in 1989 as adults already (at least 5-6 years old), were still there in April 2008 and they still were very active and in really good condition. I´ll see how old they may get in nature.
By the way Mario, welcome to the forum,
Rainer | |
| | | | Mario Lutz
Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1416
Age : 56
Location : Puerto Galera, Philippines
Points : 8189
Registration date : 2008-03-06
| | Subject: Re: asking for condolence Sat 20 Sep - 11:00 | |
| well... its a shame to loose a long friend..
i have only one V.ammodytes here. she is now 5 years old and very very healthy. i hope, she will reach the same age as yours.
by the way, awesome shoot !
cheers
Mario | |
| | | | Mario Schweiger
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 53
Age : 72
Location : Obertrum, Salzburg, Austria
Points : 5741
Registration date : 2008-09-14
| | Subject: Re: asking for condolence Mon 22 Sep - 21:05 | |
| well, let´s see!
her brother (they had more than 100 very well doing babies together) is still in best condition!
Maybe he will break Rainer´s record of 31 years!
Mario | |
| | | | Rainer Fesser
Systematicus
Number of posts : 565
Age : 74
Location : Austria
Points : 6496
Registration date : 2008-03-13
| | Subject: Re: asking for condolence Mon 22 Sep - 21:50 | |
| Hi Mario,
would be fine, if he would get even older.
I don´t see that as my record, it belongs to the animals.
I wish you to have him for a long time in healthy condition, maybe even with future offspring.
Regards,
Rainer. | |
| | | | Mario Schweiger
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 53
Age : 72
Location : Obertrum, Salzburg, Austria
Points : 5741
Registration date : 2008-09-14
| | Subject: Re: asking for condolence Mon 22 Sep - 22:07 | |
| Hello Rainer, yes, these are your vipers records.  Keeping them for 31 years, we guess, you may be some days older  Mario | |
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