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Johannes Marchand
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PostSubject: Koller Stein   Koller Stein Icon_minitimeThu 10 Jan - 6:13

Don't know is such practice is welcome here, nor if it's the good section. If it's not the case please, feel free to move it or delete it.

I'm actively searching for Philodryas olfersii, and after posting ad on Terraristik, Reptilienserver and so on, I've received a strange email of a guy named Koller stein.
The title of the email was Philodryas olfersii, of course:

hello, I have the perfect animal for you. I have the type of animal
you are in search of.


After that email I naturally made a few rsearch on Mr Koller Stein. To know a bit more, to know if he was on some board, or have some website with nice Philodryas olfersii.
And all that I found was German pages stating he was just a joke, claiming to have every species people want and things like that....

Then I replied:

Hello,

great. Can you tell me more please ?


Followed by :

Hello ,
How many do you want?. what sex?. What size do you want. I have a
huge amount. You want other kinds?, how much you can pay? get back so that we
can proceed.
(That email came with a P.ofersii photo from the web)

Then I decided to see how far he would go

Hu, nice picture stolen on the web ( http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgf_nq54KLfoRm58gjEIWnCsnv7LY7f69cydRDdn1EjCRB9AbuSmS31Hoh )

OK I want 8 male and 8 female. All adults please.
I can pay 200 euros by animal.
Is that possible ?
I'm very interested


Joke aside, beware of that email address : kollerstein@gmail.com
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Johannes Marchand
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Johannes Marchand


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PostSubject: Re: Koller Stein   Koller Stein Icon_minitimeThu 10 Jan - 20:53

ok, I will send you 8 males and 8 females.
yes i will sell the animal for 200 euros each. so i will send you 18
animals for 3200 euros.
I am in Victoria cameroon.
I require the information below to ue and transport the animal to you.
send the information below so that i can use to send the animals to you.

1 your full names.
2 your house address. this is because the animals will be delivered to
you at home by the transportation agency agents.
3 the nearest airport to your house.
4 your phone number.
5 the fees. 3200 euros.


Blablabla... Sure I'll send you 3200 euros, just like that !

Yeah sure, can you give me your full name, your full address, telephone number
and also the way you want the fees please?
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Peter Zürcher
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PostSubject: Re: Koller Stein   Koller Stein Icon_minitimeThu 10 Jan - 21:08

It's just not worth to discuss it.
Regarding the location "Cameroon" make things clear....
I'm just wondering that this swindler isn't already on this blacklist:
http://www.terraristik.com/tb/black_list.php

maybe he/she is under another name - there's a "Koller Melanie" from Cameroon....
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Johannes Marchand
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Johannes Marchand


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Number of posts : 183
Age : 42
Location : France
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PostSubject: Re: Koller Stein   Koller Stein Icon_minitimeThu 10 Jan - 21:25

Yeah, I was wondering the same about the blacklist but did not see the link with that Melanie.
Ok thread can closed/erased.
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Manuel Ebert
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PostSubject: Re: Koller Stein   Koller Stein Icon_minitimeThu 10 Jan - 22:29

This is the reason why I simple don't see any benefit in blacklists or similar. They just come up with a new account and all is like there has never been anything to doubt ...

I'll let you know when I found a way to prevent this kind of fraud. Very Happy

Kind Regards, Manuel Ebert
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