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Arnold Haslinger




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PostSubject: african spitting cobra   african spitting cobra Icon_minitimeMon 25 Apr - 2:00

naja nigricollis woodi in austrian natur for some decades
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PostSubject: Re: african spitting cobra   african spitting cobra Icon_minitimeMon 25 Apr - 4:16

humm...yes, and ? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: african spitting cobra   african spitting cobra Icon_minitimeMon 25 Apr - 19:01

Apart from that I´m sure that they most probably would not be able to survive as individuals, let alone to breed succesfully (which would be essential for them for surviving "for some decades") in any place in Austria, I have the following questions:
Who claims that? Is there any evidence?
Where, how many and under which conditions do they live?

Until these questions will be answered in a adequate way, I can only quote Yannick Berthoud: "humm...yes, and ?"

Regards,
Rainer
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PostSubject: Re: african spitting cobra   african spitting cobra Icon_minitimeTue 26 Apr - 17:50

And apart from what Rainer said i would strongly doubt that someone would set that rare and expensive snakes like Naja nigricincta (not nigricollis) woodi free.

Be careful with rumors like this - we have people ready to jump on that train in Austria.

I don't think we should take this person for serious. I found this on his facebook account:
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/almabtrieb-mehr-rinder-sterben-in-den-bayerischen-alpen-a-990336.html
with a personal remark accusing Black Spitting Cobras for this loss of cattle, and
another post on Facebook where he claims that Black Spitting Cobras taking fish out of his pond.

He seems to be what some people call a conspiracy theorist.

I moved this thread to the curiosity-section.

Apart from this funny story, did you know that Cobras as ancestors of the recent Naja species lived once in Austria:
Naja austriaca Bachmayer & Szyndlar, 1985
Naja romani Hofstetter, 1939
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PostSubject: Re: african spitting cobra   african spitting cobra Icon_minitimeWed 27 Apr - 0:15

Hello Peter,
in case Mr. Haslinger has already been in the Burgenland about 5 - 20 Million years ago, he might have mistaken a Naja austriaca for a Naja nigricincta woodi. In that case he would be the only person who knows the colour of Naja austriaca.

Have a nice springtime,
Rainer
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PostSubject: Re: african spitting cobra   african spitting cobra Icon_minitimeWed 27 Apr - 16:13

Thank You, Rainer!
Unfortunately there's not much of a springtime these days.....
Peter
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PostSubject: Re: african spitting cobra   african spitting cobra Icon_minitimeWed 27 Apr - 18:45

Neither here, snow, snow,...

But it will be spring - the first V. ammodytes (not a fake like Naja in Austria) have been out of hibernation on March 20th. here and they DO know.
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PostSubject: Re: african spitting cobra   african spitting cobra Icon_minitimeWed 27 Apr - 18:55

We (Markus, his girlfriend Verena and me) have met our forst ammodytes at about the same time - on March 19th (Schütt) and March 20th (Wörthersee).
http://www.reptilienzoonockalm.at/16Exkursionen.htm
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PostSubject: Re: african spitting cobra   african spitting cobra Icon_minitimeWed 27 Apr - 19:07

lol!
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PostSubject: Re: african spitting cobra   african spitting cobra Icon_minitimeWed 27 Apr - 19:53

Mr. Haslinger!
VenomLand is NOT a playground for internet trolls.
You are welcome to participate here with factual and serious postings, but not with funny tales like Spitting Cobras in your Austrian garden.
You've been posting various pictures of "bites" by these snakes elsewhere and you claimed being spat in your eyes several times. On the other hand, i didn't see a picture of the snakes themselves, this is telling me that the main problem with these snakes consists in being only visible to you......
You started that game on a Austrian forum, where you have been deleted, and in a UK forum too,
where you have created quite a long, but unresponded thread.
So please stop trolling and kidding here - otherwise your account will be deleted....well, at least this would give you the opportunity to complain on other forums about being censored in Austra again....
Alternatively YOU could decide to leave the forum - shouldn't be a very difficult decision after you wrote on Twitter "VenomLand.org are idiots", should it?
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