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Nicolas Cartier
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PostSubject: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeFri 17 Apr - 10:42
Hello, I wanted to know if it was possible to start young bitis peringueyi with insects as for echis.
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PostSubject: Insects as food   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeFri 17 Apr - 18:14
Hello

From my experiences it does not work, and I have had many Babies or bad eating adults in the past. There are other ways to get them to eat and switch to mice some months later.

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PostSubject: Re: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeMon 20 Apr - 20:36
Thank you, I wanted to know also if he could have between the sex and the color of the tail (black) to peringueyi.
Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeMon 20 Apr - 22:24
No this is not true Nicolas.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeMon 20 Apr - 23:04
OK, the color of their tail has nothing credit note with the sex, age, it is simply one variation of color at certain individual.

Can one determine the sex of peringueyi on the shape of the tail or the other one as to certain snake, or him needs to make a évertion of hémipènis ( popping ) or used by probes ( probing )?
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PostSubject: Re: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeMon 20 Apr - 23:15
Yes
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PostSubject: Re: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr - 4:06
Please NO poping or probing from the Babys.
You can see easy the sex , even with these tiny Babys.
Normaly there are more females , than males are born.
At least there shout be one male in the clutch.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr - 9:09
Hans-Jürgen Vogeley wrote:
Please NO poping or probing from the Babys.
You can see easy the sex , even with these tiny Babys.
Normaly there are more females , than males are born.
At least there shout be one male in the clutch.

Hello Hans Jürgen,


is there any data on your statement that there are more females then males born?
if yes, is it only in certain regions or usually like this within the whole population?


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PostSubject: Re: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr - 14:20
I have had real CB babies twice, and babies from WC animals once: one time I have had 3.3 and the other years I have had 1.4, the freshlyimported WC produced 2.4 babies. But to be honest that is statistic not really relevant and I would not dare to say that they usually produce more females then males. But I have had the same in caudalis, usually also more females then males........

Hans-Juergen is right: The sex of baby peringueyi is extremely easy to see if you have a look at the tails, there's absolutely no reason for poping or using the probes !!! USE YOUR EYES PLEASE.....that's better and safe for this tiny little creatures.

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PostSubject: Re: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr - 15:05
Ok I did not see the second portion of Nicolas post, perhaps it was added afterwards?
I am in full agreement, NO POPPING of baby Bitis is necessary.
All Bitis species, young and old, can be easily sexed by viewing tail shape 99% of the time.
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PostSubject: Re: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr - 19:16
Yes indeed on, I would not make of popping nor proding on spècimens small. I would not take the risk of hurting(damaging) them.

That I wanted knowledge it is if it was as well sure as with grown-up spècimens.

I have three baby who were born approximately 6 days ago, I would say to you how much he(it) it in female and male(mate).


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PostSubject: Re: bitis peringueyi   bitis peringueyi Icon_minitimeThu 23 Apr - 4:39
Hello Mario,
it´s from my friends and my personal experience with the Babys.
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