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 Parias mcgregori, first attempt

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PostSubject: Parias mcgregori, first attempt   Parias mcgregori, first attempt Icon_minitimeSat 5 Apr - 21:10

In order not to interrupt Mario's story (i think the story is'nt finished and he will tell us a something more about his successful breedings), I'm opening a new Thread for my own breeding "experiments".

First 2 pictures showing pre-mating behaviour; I never had the luck to catch'em in copula, they must have done it in the early hours after midnight and pretty quick.

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In the beginning of July, I found my yellow female "sitting" on a small clutch of small, infertile eggs.
That's it for the breeding season 2007, I thought, the snakes still too young, to small, and to late already in the middle of the year.
Two weeks later, I found this in the morning:

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Getting eggs that soon from a species known as almost impossible to breed did not allow me to stay easeful, and the result was a big mistake; in order to prevent the eggs from "drying out" and getting wizened, I used too much moisture. Two weeks later, everything was over, all of the 4 eggs rotten and myself near to suizide!
Cutting off the eggs, 3 of'em were found to be infertile, the last one containing a small enbryo. Maybe it was a bit too early to breed these guys.
At this time, mating season is running again, and there's a new hope for the first real breeding of this species outside the Philippines.

Here's a picture of my mcgregori cage, a group of 2,3 is living in here. To the left on the bottom one can see the breeding female.


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Nice animal, nice setup and a very interesting story!

Jan
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PostSubject: Re: Parias mcgregori, first attempt   Parias mcgregori, first attempt Icon_minitimeTue 8 Apr - 19:06

An interesting thread indeed. Thanks for sharing!
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PostSubject: Re: Parias mcgregori, first attempt   Parias mcgregori, first attempt Icon_minitimeTue 8 Apr - 19:09

Thanks, Jan, I hope the story will continue soon and with better results.
One of the females (yellow) seems to be gravid already.
Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Parias mcgregori, first attempt   Parias mcgregori, first attempt Icon_minitimeThu 17 Apr - 19:06

nothing beats seeing the ladies with eggs! goodluck with them! Very Happy
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PostSubject: @ Yeah Peter   Parias mcgregori, first attempt Icon_minitimeThu 17 Apr - 20:00

Best whishes from Switzerland, it's an amazing species and I really that that you will succeed with breeding them as soon - would be an honour to see them live at your place.

By the way: Maybe I can organise it to visit you this year, would be great to meet you and your amazing collection of awsome snakes Cool

Cheers and take care
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PostSubject: Re: Parias mcgregori, first attempt   Parias mcgregori, first attempt Icon_minitimeMon 5 May - 21:07

Doesn't look bad this year with my yellow tiger female.
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PostSubject: Re: Parias mcgregori, first attempt   Parias mcgregori, first attempt Icon_minitimeWed 7 May - 9:45

ill cross my finger for his peter..

its about time, somebody else is breeding them beside me...
ill attach a picture of a hatching baby, so you can see - how it looks like and you have somethings to look forward to... she is very gravid, your little tigress!


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PostSubject: Re: Parias mcgregori, first attempt   Parias mcgregori, first attempt Icon_minitimeWed 7 May - 13:09

@Bossing Mario - Totally speechless for that hatching hatchling! Smile

@Peter - Best of luck! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Parias mcgregori, first attempt   Parias mcgregori, first attempt Icon_minitimeFri 9 May - 6:51

Incredible snakes, I never get tired of looking at these beauties.
The hatching pic is awesome. I can't imagine how it feels to witness that live...
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PostSubject: Re: Parias mcgregori, first attempt   Parias mcgregori, first attempt Icon_minitimeWed 24 Mar - 18:48

I just wish we could get them here in the states. Have seen one pair in ten years.
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Congrats Peter, that looks very promising.
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Peter, any updates?
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