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Guenter Leitenbauer
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| Subject: Naja melanoleuca subfulva  Tue 4 Aug - 3:23 | |
| Photographed at Peter Zürcher's great zoo a few days ago. Maybe Peter will write some information to this subspecies (ev. species in some time). 
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Wolfgang Wüster
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Tue 4 Aug - 4:25 | |
| subvulva - now THAT's a Freudian slip if ever I saw one!!!  But a beautiful photo nevertheless  | |
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Guenter Leitenbauer
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Tue 4 Aug - 4:30 | |
| Wolfgang, I thought the same and checked it in wikipedia (I know, not THE medium, but anyway good enough for me):
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzwei%C3%9Fe_Hutschlange | |
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Wolfgang Wüster
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Tue 4 Aug - 4:46 | |
| OK, good excuse But the correct spelling is definitely subfulva! I corrected the Wikipedia entry.... Cheers, Wolfgang  | |
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Guenter Leitenbauer
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Tue 4 Aug - 4:49 | |
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Scotty Allen
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Tue 4 Aug - 11:08 | |
| It may not be a spelling mistake at all Wolfgang, perhaps our old friend from OZ has struck again and named another new subspecies? | |
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Rob Deans
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Tue 4 Aug - 16:01 | |
| subvulva  I enjoyed that. Guenter if you cant trust Wikipedia who can you trust eh? | |
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Guenter Leitenbauer
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Tue 4 Aug - 17:26 | |
| - Rob Deans wrote:
- subvulva I enjoyed that.
Well, we have ladies here in this forum so I bite onto my tongue now and won't proceed with this ... - Rob Deans wrote:
- subvulva Guenter if you cant trust Wikipedia who can you trust eh?
I am definitely aware that Wikipedia is full of mistakes. But usually the information there is at least as good as in other (printed) lexika, I guess. And I am not the only one, see: http://www.naja-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=87&sid=359b7116422fdcd5f5ee267a9903bcee http://www.deine-tierwelt.de/kleinanzeigen/hobbyaufgabe-a70217204/ http://www.venomdoc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=26343&sid=756be841e8f9284b18f26558498af19b http://www.kingsnake.com/elapids/forest_cobra.htm http://www.giftschlangen-forum.de/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=163 http://www.reptilegardens.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=3&page=3 ... 8 Google Pages full of "subvulvas" !!! | |
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Wolfgang Wüster
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Tue 4 Aug - 17:46 | |
| There are a obviously lot of dirty minds in herpetology I really cannot relate to that kind of mentality - Scotty Allen wrote:
- It may not be a spelling mistake at all
Wolfgang, perhaps our old friend from OZ has struck again and named
another new subspecies? I wonder who he named it after... | |
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Rob Deans
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Peter Zürcher
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Fri 7 Aug - 20:04 | |
| Don't ever trust Wikipedia, Guenter.
and keep other things out of your mind while doing postings on snake-forums *LOL*
subfulva (latin) frum sub (=under) and fulvus (yellowish brown),
referring to the brown-yellow underside.
"subfulva" was created by LAURENT (1955) as a subspecies of melanoleuca, CHIRIO et al. (2006) regard these snakes as species (Naja subfulva).
As far as I know, further investigations are running at this time, and we'll have to wait for results.
Cheers
Peter
by the way, thanks for your work and excellent picures, waiting for more.... | |
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Guenter Leitenbauer
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Fri 7 Aug - 20:14 | |
| Most of the new shots are on my flickr site as well:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/guenterleitenbauer
Thanks Peter, for the possibility to do these shots! | |
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Patrice Lavigne
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| | Subject: Re: Naja melanoleuca subfulva Fri 21 Aug - 21:49 | |
| You' ve got always super shots of snakes you photograph Guenter !!!!!!!!! I always enjoy to look at them !!! A REAL ARTIST !!! | |
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