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Walter Silva
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PostSubject: peat moss and snakes   peat moss and snakes Icon_minitimeWed 7 Oct - 3:11

Hi snakebrothers !!!

did you have any problem with peat moss??? impactation?? intestinal obstruction??? in your snakes...

When your snakes feeding with rodents...the peat moss add the rodent??? is a problem???

Thanks for your time

Walter
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PostSubject: Re: peat moss and snakes   peat moss and snakes Icon_minitimeWed 7 Oct - 21:26

Hi Walter,


i dont have had any problems with the moss been swallowed accidentally by the animal while feeding them. i choose to not use it anymore for years due the fungicide issues which came with it..


cheers
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PostSubject: Re: peat moss and snakes   peat moss and snakes Icon_minitimeThu 8 Oct - 2:57

Mario Lutz wrote:
Hi Walter,


i dont have had any problems with the moss been swallowed accidentally by the animal while feeding them. i choose to not use it anymore for years due the fungicide issues which came with it..


cheers
M.

Hello Mario,

What you use now in exchange of peat moss?

Best regards,
Alexander
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Walter Silva
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PostSubject: Re: peat moss and snakes   peat moss and snakes Icon_minitimeThu 8 Oct - 7:01

Mario Lutz wrote:
Hi Walter,


i dont have had any problems with the moss been swallowed accidentally by the animal while feeding them. i choose to not use it anymore for years due the fungicide issues which came with it..


cheers
M.

Hi Mario:

Thanks for your information.. In my country (Perú), doesn´t have any substrates in the pet market... I use a newspaper for my snakes... but in this time I have jumping pit vipers babies, and i want use natural substrate... i think than teh peat moss is better in this case... In Perú, the peat moss doesn´t have fungicides or another chemical products..

Best regards

Walter
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PostSubject: Re: peat moss and snakes   peat moss and snakes Icon_minitimeTue 20 Oct - 22:24

Hello,

I have used peat moss for some years now, I personally haven't had the problem, because I always fed my animals in a separate "feeding cage" which has no other substrate than newspaper. On the other hand, as DVM, I have seen a lot of snakes with peat moss in their mouths, specially when signs of respiratory disease are present. It is not a big problem apparently.

Keep an eye on the amount of water in the substrate, as damper it gets the more sticky.

Greeting from Mexico.

Saludos desde México.

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Walter Silva
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PostSubject: Re: peat moss and snakes   peat moss and snakes Icon_minitimeWed 21 Oct - 2:20

Hola Ariel:

Un gusto tenerte aqui en el foro, bueno yo no he usado el peat moss, porque siempre he manejado a mis bichos (venenosos y no) con papel periodico, pero ahora quiero cambiar a unas venenosas (tuxtlan jumping pit viper) ha peat moss, bueno aun son pequeñas, pero mas adelante pienso ponerle el peat moss..tu me lo aconsejas para esa especie...o solo con papel periodico estaria bien?..

un abrazo y que bichos manejas en Mexico??

saludos desde Perú
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PostSubject: Re: peat moss and snakes   peat moss and snakes Icon_minitimeWed 21 Oct - 13:57

Hola:

Pues yo he tenido la ocasión de usar casi todos los sustratos que se comercializan en el mercado desde Peat-Moss hasta Sani-Chips. Para los Atropoides te funcionará excelente. El único problema que le encuentro es que requiere mucho mantenimiento, hay que aspersar agua practicamente todos los dias, ya que si pierde la humedad es muy dificil lograr la consistencia adecuada. Ahora practicamente no uso el Peat-Moss, prefiero la fibra de coco pulverizada. Tiene un color rojizo muy atractivo y una mejor consistencia.

Ahora tenemos algunas cascabeles (C. t. triseriatus, C. t. armstrongi, C. aquilus, C. molossus nigrescens, C. tigris, C. polystictus, C. s. scutulatus, C. s. salvinii, C. basiliscus, C. viridis, C. atrox) y una Nauyaca o Terciopelo (Bothrops asper). Además de otras especies de serpientes inofensivas (no venenosas), lagatijas, tortugas, mamíferos y aves. TODO UN ZOOLÓGICO!!!

En fin te mando un abrazo y por acá nos leemos.

Saludos desde México.

P.D. Cómo el foro es Internacional pondré la respuesta en Inglés.

Hello,

I have used practically all the subtrates offered in the market, from Peat-Moss until the Sani-Chips. I think that the Peat-Moss will work excellent on the Atropoides.The only problem you may find is that it requires a lot of work to mantein it in the correct texture. You'll have to spray water every day. Right now I prefer the pulverized coconut fiber. It has an atractive reddish color and its texture seems better to me.

We have a collection of rattlesnakes (C. t. triseriatus, C. t. armstrongi, C. aquilus, C. molossus nigrescens, C. tigris, C. polystictus, C. s. scutulatus, C. s. salvinii, C. basiliscus, C. viridis, C. atrox) and one Terciopelo (Bothrops asper). We also have some non poisonous snakes, turtles, tortoises, lizards, small mammals and a few birds. AN ENTIRE ZOO!!!

Greetings from Mexico.

P.S. As this is supposed to be an International Forum I'll post the message in English as well.
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PostSubject: Re: peat moss and snakes   peat moss and snakes Icon_minitimeThu 22 Oct - 6:35

Hola Ariel:

como estas? gracias por el dato. Y me gustó tu foro. Pronto estaré por alli.

Aqui en Perú,no hay esa fibra de coco en el mercado de mascotas..tendria q ver alguna forma casera de hacerlo..tenés alguna pagina donde se detalle el proceso casero??

Saludos

Hi Ariel:

how are you? thanks for your tip. I like your snake forum. In the next time, i stay in there..

In Perú, doesn´t have coco fiber in the pet market... i will make it any artesanal way -... dou you have any web page about this???

Best regards

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PostSubject: Re: peat moss and snakes   peat moss and snakes Icon_minitimeThu 22 Oct - 15:01

Because I like to move or I should say remove my animals from there enviroments as little as absolutely possible for my safety as well as theirs I always use newspaper. Never a problem. The only exception is my cerastes. For the animals that need the extra humidity I just adda water basin in the bottom of the enclosure.
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