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Manfred Gessner
Peter Zürcher
Sebastian Arvidsson
James Miller
Jason Bruno
David Nixon
Lourance Klose
Pascal Buri
Guenter Leitenbauer
Rob Deans
Richard Blok
Jairo Cuevas
BradMiller
Patrick Vince
Marthinus C. Harmse
Niklas Eriksson
Jamie Osburn
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Jamie Osburn
Snakekeeper
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Male
Number of posts : 50
Age : 46
Location : Charleston, SC
Points : 5965
Registration date : 2008-07-27

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PostSubject: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeThu 19 Nov - 12:32

Here are a few pictures of a subadult female D.polylepis I have. She is of Tanzanian origin. I recently acquired a male of the same origin and will get some pictures once he sheds. -Jamie

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Niklas Eriksson
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Number of posts : 65
Age : 37
Location : Sweden
Points : 5519
Registration date : 2009-11-11

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeThu 19 Nov - 22:27

Ah very nice! I just watch Steven Austin in "7 deadly strikes". Black Mambas are fantastic snakes for sure!
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Marthinus C. Harmse
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Marthinus C. Harmse


Male
Number of posts : 254
Age : 43
Location : South-Africa
Points : 5982
Registration date : 2009-04-18

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeFri 20 Nov - 5:59

It looks really healthy with that shine. Congrats.
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Patrick Vince
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Number of posts : 96
Age : 62
Location : france
Points : 5596
Registration date : 2009-09-22

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSat 21 Nov - 1:44

Hi, she is beautifull !
i hope to have a male for my female soon too !
...by the way, what is her size ?
Cheers.
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Jamie Osburn
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Number of posts : 50
Age : 46
Location : Charleston, SC
Points : 5965
Registration date : 2008-07-27

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSat 21 Nov - 5:40

patrick vince wrote:
Hi, she is beautifull !
i hope to have a male for my female soon too !
...by the way, what is her size ?
Cheers.

She's a little over 6ft, 1.8m, in length. She's still a young one. -Jamie
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BradMiller
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BradMiller


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Number of posts : 181
Age : 46
Location : South Africa
Points : 5840
Registration date : 2009-05-09

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSat 21 Nov - 16:38

Always loved these - see them often in the wild.
Nice Pics
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Jairo Cuevas

Jairo Cuevas


Male
Number of posts : 3
Age : 39
Location : España
Points : 5421
Registration date : 2009-11-23

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeFri 18 Dec - 22:56

Its so beautyful, greats!!!
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Richard Blok
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Richard Blok


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Number of posts : 64
Age : 54
Location : holland
Points : 5335
Registration date : 2010-05-06

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeTue 11 May - 21:16

The blacks are one of the nicest snakes in my opinion
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Rob Deans
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Rob Deans


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Number of posts : 322
Age : 43
Location : South Africa
Points : 6294
Registration date : 2008-04-24

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeWed 12 May - 16:04

Richard Blok wrote:
The blacks are one of the nicest snakes in my opinion

Ive never dealt with a Black mamba that was "nice" Smile
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Guenter Leitenbauer
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Guenter Leitenbauer


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Number of posts : 1389
Age : 58
Location : Gunskirchen / Austria
Points : 7262
Registration date : 2008-05-17

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeWed 12 May - 18:32

Sorry Gentlemen, I've to ask another maybe stupid question:

Are blacks in general more aggressive and wild in captivity than most of the other hots? Just for my interest.

What may be the most difficult snake species in this sense?

Cheers,
Guenter
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Pascal Buri
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Number of posts : 12
Age : 49
Location : Basel Switzerland
Points : 5318
Registration date : 2010-03-18

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeWed 12 May - 19:40

Hi Guenter,

I did not handle Mambas so far, but from my experience Pseudonaja species are really some of the most agressive/nervous ones (e.g. P. textilis and P. affinis)

Pascal
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Lourance Klose
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Number of posts : 42
Age : 40
Location : Cape Town / South Africa
Points : 5915
Registration date : 2008-09-10

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSun 16 May - 22:04

I personally do not find Black Mamba's that bad, I have 6 of them and although everytime I take them out, I am respectful of what they can potentially do. I do not consider them to be "aggressive" snakes.

I find alot more of my cobra to be "aggresive" when been taken out of their cages. The Black Mamba's generally just look for somewhere to go once they are out. I can most likely count the amount of times on one hand where my mamba's have struck at me when handling them. Some of my other cobra's on the hand it is a regular thing when handling.
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Richard Blok
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Richard Blok


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Number of posts : 64
Age : 54
Location : holland
Points : 5335
Registration date : 2010-05-06

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeMon 17 May - 15:33

You see there also nice black mamba.s Laughing
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David Nixon
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David Nixon


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Number of posts : 156
Age : 42
Location : Staffordshire, UK
Points : 6044
Registration date : 2008-09-19

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSun 23 May - 20:52

I agree with Lourance, I find them easy going (as a rule), the issue I find is it only takes a breath of wind to p**s them off, then everything can change (unwinding them from their branch is a good example). It's about being steady and slow with them, I find they react to movement.

I fully respect what they can do - a key thing to remember.

Dave
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Jason Bruno
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Jason Bruno


Male
Number of posts : 142
Age : 47
Location : West Virginia
Points : 5566
Registration date : 2009-12-06

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSun 23 May - 23:07

Very nice looking Mamba Jamie, I really like the Tanzanian locale.
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James Miller




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Number of posts : 4
Age : 34
Location : Bremen, IN
Points : 4230
Registration date : 2013-02-21

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeFri 22 Feb - 2:13

People have to have guts to have a black mamba for a pet! Shocked Do you guys have antivenom around in case somebody gets bitten?
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Sebastian Arvidsson
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Sebastian Arvidsson


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Number of posts : 109
Age : 34
Location : Sweden
Points : 5098
Registration date : 2011-02-13

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeFri 22 Feb - 21:00

First, on the main it has no normal hardworking people can afford to have an antidote at home as it is very expensive and also a perishable commodity. Furthermore, I assume that you have to be somehow educated doctors etc. to know how large a dose you should take and where. So first priotering is to get to the hospital. whatever poisonous snake you've been bitten by.




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Peter Zürcher
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Peter Zürcher


Male
Number of posts : 1266
Age : 72
Location : Carinthia, Austria
Points : 8256
Registration date : 2008-03-06

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSat 23 Feb - 1:11

Quote :
no normal hardworking people can afford to have an antidote at home as it is very expensive

expensive? not this one!
I know several people storing antivenin at home, including myself.
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Sebastian Arvidsson
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Sebastian Arvidsson


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Number of posts : 109
Age : 34
Location : Sweden
Points : 5098
Registration date : 2011-02-13

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSat 23 Feb - 8:42

ok here in Sweden I do not know if many anyway with antidotes home precisely because it is too expensive what I've heard anyway. But you who have antidotes at home then you know exactly how large a dose of the antidote you need to take? or do you have it to a doctor at the hospital who can quickly get access to it?
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Peter Zürcher
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Peter Zürcher


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Number of posts : 1266
Age : 72
Location : Carinthia, Austria
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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSat 23 Feb - 16:37

Antivenin isn't something you "take", it can only be administered by doctors in a hospial, usual intravenously via a drip.
How large the dose should be depends on the severety of the bite, resp. the amount of venom injected, and must be determined by doctors.
The advantage of home-stored antivenin is clear: no time is wasted in searching antivenin and transporting it over hundreds of miles.
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Manfred Gessner
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Manfred Gessner


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Number of posts : 79
Age : 63
Location : Cologne/Germany
Points : 4590
Registration date : 2012-06-08

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSat 23 Feb - 16:53

Fantastic animal, but I must agree that I'm to old for this kind of snake. :-)

best regards Manni
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Peter Zürcher
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Peter Zürcher


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Number of posts : 1266
Age : 72
Location : Carinthia, Austria
Points : 8256
Registration date : 2008-03-06

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSat 23 Feb - 17:10

I have ten years more, Manni.
I don't think it does depend on age.
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Manfred Gessner
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Manfred Gessner


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Number of posts : 79
Age : 63
Location : Cologne/Germany
Points : 4590
Registration date : 2012-06-08

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSat 23 Feb - 17:34

Peter Zürcher wrote:
I have ten years more, Manni.
I don't think it does depend on age.
Hello Peter
you've right, my comment was more a little joke.
Seriously keeper do it with Head, heart and brain. :-) :-)

best regards Manni
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Michiel Kooiman
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Number of posts : 111
Age : 48
Location : Netherlands
Points : 4559
Registration date : 2012-08-16

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeSat 23 Feb - 23:45

What does antivenom cost ?
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Ronald Streeter
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Ronald Streeter


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Number of posts : 85
Age : 68
Location : California
Points : 4585
Registration date : 2012-06-08

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PostSubject: Re: Black mamba   Black mamba Icon_minitimeFri 8 Mar - 15:00

My single male D. Polylepis, which was raised from an egg, only showed me the open mouth threat when it was a newly hatched baby. Very quickly he stopped all forms of defensiveness, although I respected the venom potential.

Only "necked" him a couple of times as a "juvie" due to the unnecessary risk. I also didn't want to risk injuring him. They are really interesting captives in general. A very beautiful animal for sure.

Antivenin was sourced by me through a local zoo, which they owned. So no idea as to the cost, especially for prices on todays market. But there are experts here keeping their own supplies of coarse.

For a comparison, I would say that Taipans are more on the nervous side, with more caution being necessary.
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