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+3Rob Deans Frank Weinsheimer Bernd Schierner 7 posters | Author | Message |
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Bernd Schierner
Number of posts : 4 Age : 48 Location : Germany Points : 5326 Registration date : 2009-10-26
| Subject: Unknown snake, Botswana Sun 6 Dec - 23:53 | |
| Hi everybody! This is my first post here, cause i dont keep any hots. I like it more to see great pictures and read about them as well. In a far, far future there will be some rear-fanged, like Telescopus, but for now i am only keeping colubrids.
A friend of mine asked me what snake she saw last week in Mashatu game reserve, Botswana. The snake measured 20-30 cm and was crawling on a table at first.
http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2000/jmd3m3nx_jpg.htm http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2000/acnaibds_jpg.htm
I hope someone here can id it?
Regards Bernd | |
| | | Frank Weinsheimer Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 132 Age : 44 Location : Germany Points : 6057 Registration date : 2008-04-20
| Subject: Re: Unknown snake, Botswana Mon 7 Dec - 0:52 | |
| Hello Bernd,
the picture shows a Prosymna stuhlmanni or East African Shovel-snout, a harmless burrowing colubrid snake. You don´t find them very often, as they are mostly hiding under the surface. Biologically they are very strange in feeding (as far as I know) exclusively on reptile eggs.
Best regards
Frank | |
| | | Bernd Schierner
Number of posts : 4 Age : 48 Location : Germany Points : 5326 Registration date : 2009-10-26
| Subject: Re: Unknown snake, Botswana Mon 7 Dec - 2:53 | |
| Hello Frank!
I think you are right with Prosymna stuhlmanni, i did some google research and the pictures look pretty much like the snake my friend saw. Thank you very much for your fast answer!
I have also a picture probaly showing a juvenile Dispholidus typus? http://s3.directupload.net/file/d/2000/ar786w44_jpg.htm
Regards Bernd | |
| | | Frank Weinsheimer Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 132 Age : 44 Location : Germany Points : 6057 Registration date : 2008-04-20
| Subject: Re: Unknown snake, Botswana Mon 7 Dec - 4:46 | |
| Hi Bernd,
I´m 100% sure with the Prosymna stuhlmanni, I found it myself a couple of weeks ago in Tanzania. The other picture is no Dispholidus typus, it looks to me like a Psammophis sp., the exact species I´m not sure about.
Best regards
Frank | |
| | | Bernd Schierner
Number of posts : 4 Age : 48 Location : Germany Points : 5326 Registration date : 2009-10-26
| Subject: Re: Unknown snake, Botswana Mon 7 Dec - 5:38 | |
| My friend said one of the guides identified it as a Boomslang, but when she showed the picture to me, the head didnt look like D. typus. As i said before, i am not a hot keeper, but all pictures of the boomslang i saw before looked very different from that one, including green and black animals. Maybe the natives call every more aboreal snake "Boomslang"? | |
| | | Rob Deans Snakemaster
Number of posts : 322 Age : 43 Location : South Africa Points : 6170 Registration date : 2008-04-24
| Subject: Re: Unknown snake, Botswana Mon 7 Dec - 14:27 | |
| Definately a Psammophis sp.
You are probably correct in saying that locals refer to any snake found in a tree as "Boomslang" Then again, they dont speak Afrikaans in Botswana. Hmmm | |
| | | Gavin Carpenter Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 138 Age : 64 Location : South Africa Points : 5951 Registration date : 2008-04-03
| Subject: Re: Unknown snake, Botswana Tue 8 Dec - 11:57 | |
| Looks like a young Psammophis Mossambicus. They lose most of the head pattern when they get bigger. | |
| | | Bernd Schierner
Number of posts : 4 Age : 48 Location : Germany Points : 5326 Registration date : 2009-10-26
| Subject: Re: Unknown snake, Botswana Wed 9 Dec - 3:16 | |
| Hello! Today i got my hands on another picture of the snake, perhaps its easier to identify now? http://s2.directupload.net/file/d/2002/kvyrhqmp_jpg.htm | |
| | | Fabian Dirks Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 766 Age : 42 Location : Germany Points : 6544 Registration date : 2009-01-07
| Subject: Re: Unknown snake, Botswana Wed 9 Dec - 4:46 | |
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| | | pierre-yves vaucher Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 49 Age : 67 Location : Geneva, Switzerland Points : 5365 Registration date : 2009-11-11
| Subject: Re: Unknown snake, Botswana Sat 12 Dec - 9:46 | |
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| | | Archie Bottoms Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 83 Age : 59 Location : LUBBOCK tEXAS Points : 5403 Registration date : 2009-11-25
| Subject: Re: Unknown snake, Botswana Mon 14 Dec - 2:01 | |
| Prosymna stuhlmanni and psammophis m.They are not the same snake at all 2 snakes 2 answers | |
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