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Michael Fischer
Newbie
Number of posts : 27
Age : 51
Location : Germany
Points : 5460
Registration date : 2010-01-16
| Subject: Squamigera - open mouth  Sun 7 Feb - 16:49 | |
| Hello
i have an adult Atheris squamigera female since a few day she obens her mouth, especially when i spray water.
I think its a light lung inflammation (or something like that)
she eats and her behavior otherwise is normal.
Is there anything i can do against is?
Raise the temperature?
thanks
Michael | |
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PeterMagnusson
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 91
Age : 43
Location : Linköping Sweden
Points : 5708
Registration date : 2009-07-12
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Sun 7 Feb - 19:30 | |
| raise temperture and moist | |
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Ilkka Kujansivu
Number of posts : 1
Age : 49
Location : Finland
Points : 5555
Registration date : 2009-09-04
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Mon 8 Feb - 19:10 | |
| Hello Michael,
I think you should not raise the moisture level at first! The open mouth breathing or throath puffing may be caused by Pseudomonas bacteria in respitatory organs and too much moisture and lack of proper ventilation usually makes it worse.
You should check your cage ventilation first and only spray your squamigera only around 1-2 times weekly, of course depending of ventilation.
Also, a little bit higher overall temperatures and stress free environment could help the situation.
Regards,
Ilkka | |
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Radek Benda
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 40
Age : 47
Location : Prague
Points : 5606
Registration date : 2009-08-28
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Mon 8 Feb - 20:17 | |
| Hello, iim agree with Ilkka,moist is problematic in atheris squamigera especially... Keep the terarium dry (bowls of water is possible to squamigera) and vitamin C is very helpfull in this problems... Im also hits with pseudomonas bakteria in my squamigera and this time no problems.. Good luck... | |
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Michael Fischer
Newbie
Number of posts : 27
Age : 51
Location : Germany
Points : 5460
Registration date : 2010-01-16
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Thu 11 Feb - 21:54 | |
| I was at the vet. and he diagnosed Pseudomonas bacteria.
Now we wait for the result of theresistance test...
The snake is still in good condition, i hope everything will turn good! | |
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Derek Morgan
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 410
Age : 53
Location : North Carolina, USA
Points : 6255
Registration date : 2008-05-13
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Fri 12 Feb - 4:02 | |
| Good luck, Michael. I hope she pulls through for you. I would also suggest keeping her very dry since that may help limit how the bacteria spreads. I'm surprised that your vet had to test the resistance. I thought that treating pseudomonas was pretty cut and dry with amikacin. Maybe it's a new culture or I'm just wrong? I've never had that particular bacteria, so I'm probably just wrong.  | |
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Michael Fischer
Newbie
Number of posts : 27
Age : 51
Location : Germany
Points : 5460
Registration date : 2010-01-16
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Fri 19 Feb - 20:28 | |
| The result from the resistance test was that baytril will be the best against this kind of pseudomonas. Yesterday was the 7. day i gave her this medicine (injection).
Now it looks much better!
i hope she will survive. | |
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Jonas Hill
Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 115
Age : 36
Location : Germany
Points : 5555
Registration date : 2010-01-21
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Fri 19 Feb - 23:49 | |
| My experience is that Marbocyl is better-toleratet than Baytril, but obviously it helps and thats the main point. An maybe they've tested it already.
Good luck further on! | |
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Michael Fischer
Newbie
Number of posts : 27
Age : 51
Location : Germany
Points : 5460
Registration date : 2010-01-16
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Fri 12 Mar - 14:48 | |
| Update:
The snakes is still in good condition she eat a mice 2 day ago.
i hope the "pseudomona desaster" is over...
soon i will post a picture... | |
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Guenter Leitenbauer
Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1389
Age : 59
Location : Gunskirchen / Austria
Points : 7317
Registration date : 2008-05-17
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Fri 12 Mar - 15:23 | |
| Looking forward to it!
IMHO the squams are very photogenic - I love the scales so much. | |
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Christian Moisander
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 404
Age : 48
Location : Finland
Points : 6339
Registration date : 2008-04-27
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Fri 12 Mar - 19:26 | |
| Hope your squam makes it. Glad to hear she's getting better. | |
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Radek Benda
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 40
Age : 47
Location : Prague
Points : 5606
Registration date : 2009-08-28
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Fri 12 Mar - 21:08 | |
| Thats great info Michael :-) Enjoy you healthy squamigera...
Post a photo please :-) All squams are beatiful for me... :-) | |
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Michael Fischer
Newbie
Number of posts : 27
Age : 51
Location : Germany
Points : 5460
Registration date : 2010-01-16
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Fri 12 Mar - 21:31 | |
| ...Now im under pressure to take a photo,
i will do my very best!
thanks for the good whishes | |
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Peter Zürcher
Admin
Number of posts : 1266
Age : 72
Location : Carinthia, Austria
Points : 8311
Registration date : 2008-03-06
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Fri 12 Mar - 21:48 | |
| - Quote :
- IMHO the squams are very photogenic - I love the scales so much.
You'll have the opportunity to take pictures of my squamigeras in a few days, Guenter. You'll need your macro lenses, they're cb. 2009. Cheers Peter | |
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Guenter Leitenbauer
Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1389
Age : 59
Location : Gunskirchen / Austria
Points : 7317
Registration date : 2008-05-17
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Sat 13 Mar - 1:53 | |
| Now THAT are fantastic news, Peter!
I did not know that You got some.
I am "gspannt wia a Pfitzipfeil" LOL (sorry non German speaking guys - there is no translation for that). | |
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Michael Fischer
Newbie
Number of posts : 27
Age : 51
Location : Germany
Points : 5460
Registration date : 2010-01-16
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Sun 14 Mar - 21:54 | |
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Courtney Roles
Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 41
Age : 47
Location : NW Arkansas, US
Points : 5426
Registration date : 2010-02-26
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Sun 14 Mar - 22:16 | |
| Very nice! I really love the Atheris ssp. | |
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Derek Morgan
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 410
Age : 53
Location : North Carolina, USA
Points : 6255
Registration date : 2008-05-13
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Fri 19 Mar - 4:13 | |
| Wow, nice photos Michael. I'm glad she's doing better. | |
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Michael Fischer
Newbie
Number of posts : 27
Age : 51
Location : Germany
Points : 5460
Registration date : 2010-01-16
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Mon 3 May - 15:32 | |
| Hello all together
Some good news again!
She dropped 5 helathy little snakes 4 days ago!
4 more snakes are dead.
i didnt noticed that she was gravid, she eats all the time. | |
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Christian Moisander
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 404
Age : 48
Location : Finland
Points : 6339
Registration date : 2008-04-27
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Tue 4 May - 2:55 | |
| Good for you Michael. She not only got better but delivered a bunch of healthy babies. Very nice. Now if you could only share some baby pics...  | |
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Derek Morgan
Snakemaster
Number of posts : 410
Age : 53
Location : North Carolina, USA
Points : 6255
Registration date : 2008-05-13
| | Subject: Re: Squamigera - open mouth Tue 4 May - 22:07 | |
| That's a very happy ending to the story! Congrats Michael! | |
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