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PostSubject: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeTue 16 Mar - 7:51

Hello all,
I'd like to share a few photos of my lately acquired pair of nose-horneds. These are F3 bred by Clemens Radspieler, and both are STUNNERS! I can't take my eyes off them, really. The photos are only cropped and right out of the camera, no color-improved. Enjoy. :-)

Female unfortunately wasn't very willing to pose, so two shots just to show You the coloration (in real she's less green I'd say, it's hard to show their actual colors...):

Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality 3a975659fea2444320abdffa786deacb

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And the male, this guy is a born model, that's the motivation to buy better lens for my camera. :-D

Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality 054356573e97c9b41b304965359d4d62

Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Bfa1a1707b8457d977b52c4e42884a59

Showing his red belly (I'm sure every female would go for this one, hehe ;-)):

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Red-yellow-green(ish):

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Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality 0cbccf0639a97733eccdb5cf136725eb

Best regards,
Maciej
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeTue 16 Mar - 8:24

Hi, I had a great opportunity to photograph Maciek's snakes. They're just awesome. Male's much better model, but female isn't so bad. I hope you will like my shots and please, say something about quality Wink
Male:
Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Img6252g
Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Img6292h
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Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Img6308j
Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Img6263fy
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeTue 16 Mar - 15:36

Hello Maciej, hello Pjotr,

beautiful snakes and I like the fotos.

Thank you to both of you for sharing,

Rainer
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeThu 18 Mar - 2:50

Nice snakes, i also have a pair from the same locality, very nice snakes it is.

Here are some really crappy pictures of mine. I can't wait untill i can bring em out in the sun to take pictures.
Colors is really hard to get right.

Male
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Female
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeThu 18 Mar - 5:09

Orange vipers are just so pretty, thanks for the pictures.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeThu 18 Mar - 5:33

Indeed, Mr. Cakmak!

Daniel, I really love Your female and it's sligthly darker pattern, simply awesome. Keep us updated with the pics and how the vipers are doing in general, I'll do the same as often as possible.
Cheers,
Maciej
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeThu 18 Mar - 16:40

Thnx guys..

I will keep you up to date, they are born mid 2009 so they are not big ;-)

They took the first meal after hibernation like champs. So there will be no problem raising them up to some size this year.

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeThu 18 Mar - 20:08

Hello Daniel, hello Maciej,

with these colours as babies they are very promising. They are beauties but they will be much more.

Please show us photos of them in 1 or 2 years when they will have changed colors.

Good luck with them,
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeThu 18 Mar - 21:05

Rainer Fesser wrote:
Hello Daniel, hello Maciej,

with these colours as babies they are very promising. They are beauties but they will be much more.

Please show us photos of them in 1 or 2 years when they will have changed colors.

Good luck with them,
Rainer

Thanks.. i will keep everybody here up to date.

Regards
Daniel
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeThu 18 Mar - 21:13

Hello,
Thank You, Mr. Fesser. If You say they will become more beautiful, then I certainly know they will. :-)

Daniel Claesson wrote:
they are born mid 2009 so they are not big ;-)

Same here, Daniel. Mine are about 40, maybe 45cm at the moment, I'd say...

Best regards,
MP
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeThu 18 Mar - 21:15

Mine are very similar to these, stunning snakes indeed. And they eat with no problem. I will upload some pictures asap.

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeMon 22 Mar - 16:15

Hello Israel,

please do so, I´m looking forward to them.

Rainer
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeTue 23 Mar - 5:55

Hi,
I did some measuring in the meantime. Enjoy. :-)

Female:
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Male:
Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Cca459c0ebc1377437d34b52eb4ff6a0

The photos were taken for measuring purposes only, excuse the terrible light, blur and all the rest that's gone wrong. ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeMon 29 Mar - 6:49

Rainer Fesser wrote:
Hello Israel,

please do so, I´m looking forward to them.

Rainer

Here it is the female. It is really difficult to capture the real colour hue of the animals. Hope you like it.

Regards

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeMon 29 Mar - 16:14

Hello Israel,

first: I like it. Especially in V. amm. from Montenegro there is a spectacular change in colour - mostly they become brighter when they grow - I suppose she will be even more beautiful later.

You´re right, it is very difficult to show the real colours of these snakes in a photo. The hue of colors cannot be shown by any technical means. One must see the snakes in sunlight. I took hundreds of V. amm. photos, none of them shows their real beauty, neither if the photos have been taken with a flash in a terrarium nor in nature with bright sunlight.

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Rainer
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeWed 31 Mar - 18:38

Never been a huge ammodytes fan, but these have nice colors. And the photos are great.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeTue 27 Apr - 7:34

An update - the vipers are doing fine, female about to shed. In the meantime the male took a quick meal (f/t rat pup, mice sized). Enjoy!

Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Ammo1310

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeTue 27 Apr - 16:54

I must say, I never really liked these Euro vipers. After seeing these, wow! That yellow/white colour looks almost pure.

I hope you really enjoy these!
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeTue 27 Apr - 18:21

Michael Giddings wrote:
I must say, I never really liked these Euro vipers.

Shame on You! ;-) There are no vipers not to be liked! :-)
Cheers & thanks,
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeTue 27 Apr - 19:54

Haha let me rephrase that, "never really had an intrest" Smile

Amazing snake Maciej.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality   Vipera ammodytes, Scutari Lake locality Icon_minitimeMon 14 Jun - 2:49

Yes, thy are really nice. I think the green will comes out well when they got age.

Your red belly ones look like mine as they were young.

You have some nice ammodytes.

I would like to see the development in coloration through the times.

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