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Please beware, to register at venomland you are requested to use your full name (first and family name) - nicknames are not allowed and will be not activated! thx Dear Venomland Members and Friends, Venomland is a little more than 6 years old now and by far the biggest Hot Snake community on the Planet! We want to thank all of you who made Venomland the leading Board. We are also very thankful to our Moderators and Admins for years of hard work. Now, it is time to move on. I have been thinking how to proceed and what to do with our beloved board as we reach a size, that we need to make drastic changes to secure the future of our community. As of now, Venomland is hosted by a free (well mostly free) hosting service. That was good for the first years but now we need to find a new way to run our forum. I have spend hundreds of Dollars over the years to keep Venomland up and running, and i have done so with pleasure. Now, we need your help! We need to come up with several thousand dollars for our Venomland 2.0 project, which i frankly cant pay for any longer by myself. So Venomland is asking his Friends and Members for the first time for their financial Support. Please help to keep Venomland alive, and let us move on to a new, better Portal in the Future! Every Dollar is helping us a great deal. I know, its hard times for everyone, but please spare a few Dollar for our community. If you have only 10 Dollars to spare, we are grateful, if it is more, it would be awesome. We are planning to develop a very new Venomland, with real community functions, a forum like you are already loving it and a real (online) Hot Snake Magazin. Also, there will be download areas for scientific papers, Wallpapers and more. Again folks, we can only do that if you all help. Please send me a Private Message if you want to keep Venomland alive, i will provide you with the details on how to donate Money. For now, we can accept money from creditcards via skrill (please google it, its a free service - account-details will be forwarded to you) and paypal. All the best, and for a (hopefully) nice future of our Board. Mario
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stuart douglas Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 59 Age : 61 Location : UK Points : 5713 Registration date : 2008-11-05
| Subject: Armand Belier Fri 26 Mar - 6:42 | |
| Has anyone in the UK (or anywhere else) had any dealings with him? Nobody I've spoken to has ever heard of Armand Belier......... He's offering some snakes I might be interested in and, well, I like to know who i'm dealing with................ | |
| | | Mario Lutz Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1416 Age : 56 Location : Puerto Galera, Philippines Points : 8185 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Fri 26 Mar - 12:24 | |
| - stuart douglas wrote:
- Has anyone in the UK (or anywhere else) had any dealings with him? Nobody I've spoken to has ever heard of Armand Belier.........
He's offering some snakes I might be interested in and, well, I like to know who i'm dealing with................ Hi Stuard, i have deactivated his account, as i found out that Armand Belier is not his right name... well, everyone knows our "true-name rule" here, if someone can't follow this simple rule, we certainly kick them off the board... i do not know, why someone need to hide his real name in the first place..?? cheers Mario | |
| | | Patrick Vince Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 96 Age : 61 Location : france Points : 5454 Registration date : 2009-09-22
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Fri 26 Mar - 18:32 | |
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| | | Graeme Skinner Snakemaster
Number of posts : 466 Age : 63 Location : Yorkshire, England Points : 6202 Registration date : 2009-02-19
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Fri 26 Mar - 18:38 | |
| - stuart douglas wrote:
- Has anyone in the UK (or anywhere else) had any dealings with him? Nobody I've spoken to has ever heard of Armand Belier.........
He's offering some snakes I might be interested in and, well, I like to know who i'm dealing with................ He is Chris McHale! Speak to DN etc | |
| | | Peter Zürcher Admin
Number of posts : 1266 Age : 72 Location : Carinthia, Austria Points : 8114 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Fri 26 Mar - 20:35 | |
| Seems to me we have people with double accounts here too per example: Giwrgos Nanos - George Nanos - both from Greece, same birthday .....
What's the reason? forgotten password maybe? | |
| | | aristarxos politis Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 65 Age : 36 Location : athens greece Points : 5501 Registration date : 2009-06-22
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Fri 26 Mar - 23:15 | |
| How can you tell if someone's name is reall? | |
| | | Peter Zürcher Admin
Number of posts : 1266 Age : 72 Location : Carinthia, Austria Points : 8114 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Fri 26 Mar - 23:50 | |
| A good question indeed. One does have possibilities to proof that, even it's the usual way to trust adult people sharing the same hobby or profession. Almost everyone of us is leaving his tracks here and there in the www - with his nicks, his real name or his e-mail-adress - or with combinations of'em. In many cases, i know the real names of people who registered with nicks first before the finally register correct. But as Mario already said, it's a simple, but well-working rule - and everybody should be honestly here - and most users do anyway, that's great. I just don't wanna talk to people hiding their names for some reason - maybe they have to hide other things too? Cheers Peter | |
| | | aristarxos politis Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 65 Age : 36 Location : athens greece Points : 5501 Registration date : 2009-06-22
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Sat 27 Mar - 4:08 | |
| Ok thanks for the answer!Greetings Aris | |
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| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Mon 29 Mar - 6:06 | |
| - Graeme Skinner wrote:
- stuart douglas wrote:
- Has anyone in the UK (or anywhere else) had any dealings with him? Nobody I've spoken to has ever heard of Armand Belier.........
He's offering some snakes I might be interested in and, well, I like to know who i'm dealing with................ He is Chris McHale!
Speak to DN etc Chrisopher Mchale - Very familiar name, he has a YouTube channel (christophermchale). Says he has a collection of over 20 specimens of all 4 of the Dendroaspis species, looks like he's got quite a large collection aswell. - Also keeps WC Vipera berus (Bred them last year). From what he says, he is a supplier at London Zoo. - I have reasons to believe (from his own mouth actually) that he doesn't hold a DWA Lisence. Now, if he was an unlisenced keeper, it suggests to me that London Zoo wouldn't associate dealings of animals with him. He said to me, he was selling off his entire collection, all animals were spoken for and waiting collection, and he was emigrating to somewhere outside of Europe. (I think South Africa). Originally from the USA. Either way....It seems that not many people have dealings with him....I wounder why that may be? |
| | | David Nixon Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 156 Age : 42 Location : Staffordshire, UK Points : 5902 Registration date : 2008-09-19
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Mon 29 Mar - 6:17 | |
| - stuart douglas wrote:
- Has anyone in the UK (or anywhere else) had any dealings with him? Nobody I've spoken to has ever heard of Armand Belier.........
He's offering some snakes I might be interested in and, well, I like to know who i'm dealing with................ Screwed me over on a deal with a D. viridis - stay well clear! | |
| | | Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 556 Age : 37 Location : the Netherlands Points : 6119 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Mon 29 Mar - 6:29 | |
| As far as I know him he is a great guy. Haven't had a deal with him as I couldn't bring up the money at that moment but he even offered to bring them to France. Then we did not have to come all the way to the UK. His snakes look awesome and really healthy! | |
| | | Paul Rowley Systematicus
Number of posts : 70 Age : 61 Location : Liverpool, UK Points : 5665 Registration date : 2009-02-16
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Mon 29 Mar - 21:32 | |
| I don’t think that young Jimmy realises that Dangerous Wild Animals Licenses (DWAL) are designed to allow private citizens to keep dangerous animals such as venomous snakes etc. I don’t hold a DWAL and have never kept anything under a DWAL. My licence comes direct from the British Government and has nothing to do with Local Councils. Prior to that I was working under the Zoo licensing Act.
I don’t know sure, but I suspect Chris is/was operating under a dealers / shop licence.
Oh and my name is real enough LOL | |
| | | David Nixon Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 156 Age : 42 Location : Staffordshire, UK Points : 5902 Registration date : 2008-09-19
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Mon 29 Mar - 23:01 | |
| - James Mintram wrote:
- Graeme Skinner wrote:
- stuart douglas wrote:
- Has anyone in the UK (or anywhere else) had any dealings with him? Nobody I've spoken to has ever heard of Armand Belier.........
He's offering some snakes I might be interested in and, well, I like to know who i'm dealing with................ He is Chris McHale!
Speak to DN etc Chrisopher Mchale - Very familiar name, he has a YouTube channel (christophermchale).
Says he has a collection of over 20 specimens of all 4 of the Dendroaspis species, looks like he's got quite a large collection aswell. - Also keeps WC Vipera berus (Bred them last year).
From what he says, he is a supplier at London Zoo. - I have reasons to believe (from his own mouth actually) that he doesn't hold a DWA Lisence. Now, if he was an unlisenced keeper, it suggests to me that London Zoo wouldn't associate dealings of animals with him.
He said to me, he was selling off his entire collection, all animals were spoken for and waiting collection, and he was emigrating to somewhere outside of Europe. (I think South Africa). Originally from the USA.
Either way....It seems that not many people have dealings with him....I wounder why that may be? Jimmy Mint - you have too much time on your hands, you seem to know everything about everybody! | |
| | | stuart douglas Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 59 Age : 61 Location : UK Points : 5713 Registration date : 2008-11-05
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Wed 31 Mar - 3:17 | |
| Thanks folks, I already knew who he was, just wondering why a "straight up" guy would need to use a false name, that's all..............call me a sh*t stirrer if you like..... | |
| | | stuart douglas Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 59 Age : 61 Location : UK Points : 5713 Registration date : 2008-11-05
| Subject: Re: Armand Belier Wed 31 Mar - 5:05 | |
| - James Mintram wrote:
- Graeme Skinner wrote:
- stuart douglas wrote:
- Has anyone in the UK (or anywhere else) had any dealings with him? Nobody I've spoken to has ever heard of Armand Belier.........
He's offering some snakes I might be interested in and, well, I like to know who i'm dealing with................ He is Chris McHale!
Speak to DN etc Chrisopher Mchale - Very familiar name, he has a YouTube channel (christophermchale).
Says he has a collection of over 20 specimens of all 4 of the Dendroaspis species, looks like he's got quite a large collection aswell. - Also keeps WC Vipera berus (Bred them last year).
From what he says, he is a supplier at London Zoo. - I have reasons to believe (from his own mouth actually) that he doesn't hold a DWA Lisence. Now, if he was an unlisenced keeper, it suggests to me that London Zoo wouldn't associate dealings of animals with him.
He said to me, he was selling off his entire collection, all animals were spoken for and waiting collection, and he was emigrating to somewhere outside of Europe. (I think South Africa). Originally from the USA.
Either way....It seems that not many people have dealings with him....I wounder why that may be? STFU FFS!!!!! You know nothing......... if you actually knew that you knew nothing, that would be something...as it is...........Get your head in some of these and stop doing this to us | |
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