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Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 556 Age : 37 Location : the Netherlands Points : 6316 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| Subject: Colletts black snake Mon 29 Mar - 5:29 | |
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Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 556 Age : 37 Location : the Netherlands Points : 6316 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Tue 30 Mar - 19:45 | |
| Where are the Elapid lovers | |
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Stephan Niemann Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 217 Age : 56 Location : Dittweiler /Germany Points : 5660 Registration date : 2010-02-01
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Tue 30 Mar - 19:55 | |
| very beautyfulll snake stefan but deffently a number to hot for me lol | |
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Rob Deans Snakemaster
Number of posts : 322 Age : 43 Location : South Africa Points : 6349 Registration date : 2008-04-24
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Tue 30 Mar - 22:11 | |
| That is a beautiful animal. Thanks so much for sharing.
How is the venom of these guys? Forgive my ignorance, I know nothing of them other that pictures I have seen. | |
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JohnLight Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 102 Age : 39 Location : South Florida Points : 5534 Registration date : 2010-02-26
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Tue 30 Mar - 23:07 | |
| We are here!!! Send it to me, I'll show it some love! Awesome animal! | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Tue 30 Mar - 23:45 | |
| Insanely beautiful!
I gotta have a pair of these. |
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Julian Löppenberg Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 43 Age : 37 Location : Germany Points : 5564 Registration date : 2009-11-25
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Tue 30 Mar - 23:54 | |
| Congrats, really nice animal. I have a male from last year too, hopefully i get a female this year | |
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Jaroslav Karhánek Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 213 Age : 34 Location : Czech republic Points : 5950 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Wed 31 Mar - 0:08 | |
| Wow, absolutely wonderfull snake, the colour is amazing | |
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Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 556 Age : 37 Location : the Netherlands Points : 6316 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Wed 31 Mar - 0:46 | |
| Hahaha, thanks all!
@ Rob Deans: Little bit about the venom as described on toxinolgy.com:
Venom
Average Venom Qty 48 mg ( dry weight of milked venom ), Meier and White (1995) ( Ref : R000001 )
Preferred LD50 Estimate 2.38 mg / kg sc ( mice ), Meier and White (1995) ( Ref : R000001 )
General: Venom Neurotoxins Possibly present but not clinically significant
General: Venom Myotoxins Systemic myotoxins present
General: Venom Procoagulants Not present
General: Venom Anticoagulants Direct coagulation inhibitor
General: Venom Haemorrhagins Not present
General: Venom Nephrotoxins Secondary nephrotoxicity only
General: Venom Cardiotoxins Secondary cardiotoxicity only
General: Venom Necrotoxins Not present
General: Venom Other Not present or not significant
Clinical Effects
General: Dangerousness Severe envenoming possible, potentially lethal
General: Rate of Envenoming: 40-60%
General: Untreated Lethality Rate: 20-30%
General: Local Effects Local pain, swelling & bruising
General: Local Necrosis Rarely occurs, minor only
General: General Systemic Effects Variable non-specific effects which may include headache, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, diarrhoea, dizziness, collapse or convulsions
General: Neurotoxic Paralysis Unlikely to occur
General: Myotoxicity Very common, major clinical effect, usually moderate to severe
General: Coagulopathy & Haemorrhages Uncommon to rare, but may be moderate to severe coagulopathy
General: Renal Damage Recognised complication, usually secondary to myolysis
General: Cardiotoxicity Uncommon, secondary to myolysis-induced hyperkalaemia
General: Other Not likely to occur
So... As you can read, not a fun animal to get bitten by... | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Wed 31 Mar - 0:49 | |
| Very interesting Australasian Elapid venom composition. You would expect more neurotoxins in there, wouldn't you? |
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Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 556 Age : 37 Location : the Netherlands Points : 6316 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Wed 31 Mar - 0:55 | |
| Yes indeed | |
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Christian Moisander Snakemaster
Number of posts : 404 Age : 48 Location : Finland Points : 6339 Registration date : 2008-04-27
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Wed 31 Mar - 21:57 | |
| Gorgeous snake, I love those colors. Don't really remember having seen these offered much. Awesome snake. Do you have a female for this guy? | |
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René Meierkord Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 110 Age : 42 Location : Germany Points : 5762 Registration date : 2009-06-28
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Wed 31 Mar - 23:57 | |
| It´s such a fantastic snake!!!
I like all Pseudechis... | |
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Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 556 Age : 37 Location : the Netherlands Points : 6316 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Thu 1 Apr - 19:29 | |
| Thanks! I will get a female in September or October | |
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Bostjan Kraner Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 568 Age : 45 Location : Maribor - Slovenia Points : 6102 Registration date : 2010-03-14
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Thu 29 Apr - 3:12 | |
| Hello,
very nice snake, one of my favourites. | |
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Fredrik hallingström Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 35 Location : Sweden Points : 5344 Registration date : 2010-04-12
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Thu 29 Apr - 17:37 | |
| OMG!!.....awesome snake, i jusst love the collors =) | |
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Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 556 Age : 37 Location : the Netherlands Points : 6316 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Sat 1 May - 1:44 | |
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Bostjan Kraner Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 568 Age : 45 Location : Maribor - Slovenia Points : 6102 Registration date : 2010-03-14
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Sat 1 May - 4:33 | |
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Falk Schmitt Newbie
Number of posts : 7 Age : 35 Location : Brisbane Australia Points : 5307 Registration date : 2010-05-15
| Subject: Re: Colletts black snake Tue 8 Jun - 14:47 | |
| Hey there
I`ve just read in the Australian magazine Scales & tails, that the Collett`s snake got an new name (Cannia colletti)
As a reson they say that the Red Bellied Black Snake the type member of the genus [/i](Pseudechis)[i] is. And the rest of the genus moves to the next available name which is (Cannia )[i]!
Has somebody got any further information about that?
Thanks
Falk | |
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