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Fredrik hallingström
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my first naja was a 120cm female naja siamensis.
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Jamie Osburn
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The first two Naja that I got were black Pakistan Naja naja. -Jamie
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Christian Moisander
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I can't remember for sure, but I think my first was a sub-adult N. haje.
I also got an adult N. melanoleuca and an adult pair of N. nigricollis around the same time period.
A little later I also tried my hands on N. kaouthia and N. pallida as well.
After that I adopted a monster pair of N. annulifera. Funny creatures. It was kinda sad to eventually let go of the huge female. Angry and a bit clumsy. More of a battering-ram type of attitude Smile

Although nigricollis are quite spectacular, I am not a big fan of spitters. These days I only have N. haje, they pretty much enjoy a pet status. Can't let go of them very easily.
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1.1 Naja pallida. The male hated me with a passion.

Kept spitting suprisingly long time, sometimes hooding before the hiding place and spitting furiously when I stepped to the room.
Sometimes it made me wanna raise the goggles and spit back.
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Jorg Schenkels
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my first naja was a young naja annulifera nice animals.. but verry different than other (venomous) snakes..
gr jorg
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Wolfgang Wüster
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Two Naja siamensis freshly imported WC from Thailand, and 3 Naja kaouthia in the same shipment. The two siamensis were among the most insane snakes I have ever worked with, whereas the Naja kaouthia were about as threatening as 3 giant spaghetti.
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Niklas Eriksson
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Michael Bollhorn wrote:
If you like spitting cobras I think Naja siamensis is a good way to start!

I fully agree! I myself started with a male N. siamensis, he was around 100cm in length at the time. Only time he has spit, is when I have transfered him to a box for feeding. He has never had any "bad days" when I have had to handel him.
I have had in total 4 siamensis, I keep two now. None of them has been much of a spitter, although the big male (150cm) I keep atm can be pretty defensive when he is in his enclosure. But as soon as he gets outside he just want to find a hiding place. This male has spit once, and he was behind glas when he did it. Never had any problems with spitting when I have worked with him.


The best thing you could do is to get in contact with someone that keeps cobras where you live and train on this persons animals. It is always good to have an experienced keeper with you if you are handling a snake of a new type for the first time.
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Robert Kane
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My first was a 4 ft naja nivea that still hits the glass to this day.
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Markus Gottlieb
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Robert Kane wrote:
My first was a 4 ft naja nivea that still hits the glass to this day.

I don't have that long experience with Naja sp., but Naja nivea seems extreme mad to me, I don't know what I've done to them, but mine are mad monsters Laughing I always put my rubberboots on when I open the males cage....he was many times crazy enough to just jump out and go crazy, for nor reason Very Happy
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Agust Lundkvist
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My first Naja was Naja Atra which is very aggressive always attacking the glass and smearing venom all over them Shocked
still its a pretty fun snake to handle seeing as he cheses anyone in the room with an open mouth.
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Emil Lydhagen
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N. atra
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Ray Hunter, Sc.D.
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My first cobra was a 7 foot Forest Cobra that I got from Bill Haast back in 1991. I think I traded him a Fer-de-lance for it. Of course now I realize that a large forest cobra is not the best choice for a first cobra.
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Brett Franklin
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A WC N mossambica from a friends back yard. Took her out of the bag and she shot off straight under (and up into) my washing machine! took me hours to get her out and the washing machine was never the same again :-)

I was young and have learned since when a where not to unbag an elapid!
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My first was a N. siamensis which calmed down drasticalls since i got her and has only spit once since i have obtained her and grown so fast she seems to have random growth spurts every couple months is somewhere around 3 1/2 ft
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Karl Müller
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My first Cobra was approx 1.2 m of black Pakistan, Naja naja, I still remember very well in it although it already 35 years is. The guy has brought me soon to the insanity he wanted to eat at the beginning neither mice, rats nor fowl, until I it with fish tried which he ate immediately. Late food he also rodents.

Peter Zürcher wrote:
I would be interested in seeing pitures of your Isan cobras - if you have any. This geographic colour variation has become rare in european collections in the last few years.

Peter here still some photos of Isan Cobra.

I have caught this snake at night in the country in the sitting room of a farmer.

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And this on a rice field

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Regards,
Karl
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Peter Zürcher
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Thank you Karl, great!
I've never seen a specimen with a neck pattern that well and clearly defined.
Do you have this snake in your collection?

Best regards
Peter
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Mardy McManus
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My first Naja was an adult male albino kaouthia. A nice animal but like most albinos naja i have worked with quite crazy due to the poor vision. I would go with something non albino to start with.

Cheers,

Mardy
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Sven Foerster
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My first Naja was a few month old Naja kaouthia albino, very beautiful and aggressiv.
Unfortunately she died after a few month, I don`t know why, she was a very greedy and good eater. Neutral
Before one month I bought a Naja naja, cb from this year from a member in this board.
She is very shy and first don`t came out when someone was in the room.
For next month in Houten I reserved a pair of adult Naja pallida, also from a guy in this board.
Then I reached my capacity and have to wait for a bigger apartement. ;-)
But I`m also very interested in Hemachatus haemachatus, maybe next year... ;-)

@Karl,
very nice shots from a beautiful naja, thanks for that.

Best regards
Sven
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Karl Müller
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No Peter I released both again!

The animals are from northeastern Thailand from the province Surin, them is here the most common cobra.
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Bostjan Kraner
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I have no Naja yet. I'm deciding between N. Palida, N.Naja, Naja Siamensis and N.Kaouthia. Tough call I'd say.

Regards, BKK
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Christoph Studer
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As with most others, I had startet with naja kaouthia. all my kaouthias were evil monster, wild and aggressive all of the time. Monocled cobras in my eyes are not the best beginners.

In the 15 years that I had kept Naja kaouthia, Naja haje, Naja haje legionis, Naja nivea, Naja naja and Naja siamensis, these here are my absolute favorites:
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Bostjan Kraner
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Naja Naja is in my eyes ''the real cobra'', I like the black pakistan form. But for the best looking Naja Pallida. I like also different morphs of kaouthia. I'n not planing to get any for adleast two or three years whe my new, bigger snake room will be built with much more space (ca 45m2). Now I keep Death Adder, Western Diamondback and two Puffadders and some pythons and cornsnakes with different morph genetics. When I get first Naja I'll probably start with N.Pallida or Sianemsis. I'll make four terrariums for cobras in new snakeroom. 10m2 snakeroom that I'm using now will contain mostly racks for Ball Pythons and Young snakes. This snake room is too smal for 2m cobra or other large fast elapid. The only cobra that I'll put in this room is Aspidelaps sp.

Regards, BKK


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Niklas Åhs
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First Naja was a Naja naja (calmest venomous I ever kept). First one with attitude (In my opinion acting like a cobra) was a atra.
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Acting like a Naja should do would be the right sentence..
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Michael Bollhorn
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In the past I was a real viper-man and say: never elapids... Evil or Very Mad

But in 2008 I get a bad acute infection... Suspect

I start with Naja siamensis and today I keep 2,2 Naja siamensis; 1,1 Naja pallida; 1,1 Naja Samarensis; 1,1 Naja n. nigricincta and 2,1 Hemachatus haemachatus... bounce


Regards
Michael
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