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Gustav Eloy
Rene Schenk
Derek Morgan
Marthinus C. Harmse
Sami Heikkinen
Björn Nilsson
Philipp Einfalt
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Philipp Einfalt
Snakekeeper
Snakekeeper
Philipp Einfalt


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Number of posts : 73
Age : 53
Location : Germany NRW
Points : 5282
Registration date : 2010-09-19

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PostSubject: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeFri 8 Oct - 17:37

Good morning everybody!
I want to show you my captive breed 2010 Bothriechis lateralis. The adults are "blue phase" variants. In the next weeks nad month i will show you pics of the growing up.
regards
Philipp
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Björn Nilsson
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Age : 39
Location : Sweden
Points : 5609
Registration date : 2009-09-16

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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeFri 8 Oct - 18:06

Congratulations! Smile I have never seen neonates of this species before, didnt know they start out with this color.
Good luck!
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Sami Heikkinen
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Sami Heikkinen


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Number of posts : 173
Age : 41
Location : Finland
Points : 6035
Registration date : 2008-11-04

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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeFri 8 Oct - 20:05

Damn, Congrats indeed!
I also would like to hear something about the whole breeding process, like how long was the gestation time etc.
I HAD a trio of these beauties but unfortunatelly the female dropped some time ago (and it had some offsprings inside.. ).

I definitely want to see some more photos of these and the adults!
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Marthinus C. Harmse
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Marthinus C. Harmse


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Age : 43
Location : South-Africa
Points : 6044
Registration date : 2009-04-18

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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeFri 8 Oct - 21:14

Wow. Big congrats. That doesnt happen often.
The babies arent as pretty as the adults though :T
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Philipp Einfalt
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Philipp Einfalt


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Age : 53
Location : Germany NRW
Points : 5282
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeFri 8 Oct - 22:21

Hi,
i can not say something about the real gestation time because i don´t see the mating. About three month bevore giving birth, the female was obviously thicker than bevore. Two month bevore giving birth she refused food. Between 17 and 31.7.2010 5,7 juveniles are born alive. I can´t say something about the real date of birth because to that time i was on a trip in spain. At the 31.7.2010. the shedding of all young was completetd.
I set two juveniles into one Box with paper towels as substrate, one water container, one branch an some plants. The Temperature in the night is about 20 degrees at day about 26 . The following pics are not so good sorry... but you will get an impression of the adults.
regards
Philipp
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Derek Morgan
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Location : North Carolina, USA
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeSat 9 Oct - 6:50

Very nice, congrats Philipp!! Documenting the color change of the babies will be really cool.
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeSat 9 Oct - 12:50

I think robert palmer said it best! (Simply irresitable)
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Rene Schenk
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Rene Schenk


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Location : Switzerland
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeSat 9 Oct - 17:41

Hi Phillipp,
Very nice snakes and pictures, congrats. I will post pics in some days. There are a few with
real red eyes. Just amazing! You did a great job, Dady;-) cheers Thanks again.
Cheerio
Rene
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Philipp Einfalt
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Philipp Einfalt


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Number of posts : 73
Age : 53
Location : Germany NRW
Points : 5282
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeSat 9 Oct - 21:59

@ Rene!
Wow i´m waiting eagerly to the pics!!!!!
Lets post pictures more or less with regularity to record the growing up.
so long
Philipp
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Gustav Eloy
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Gustav Eloy


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Number of posts : 662
Age : 37
Location : Aguascalientes, Mexico
Points : 5918
Registration date : 2010-09-09

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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeTue 19 Oct - 17:20

wow man this are fantastic just one of my all time favourites, i really want one
congrats, by the way do you have more pics of them and their terariums pleas??
reggards
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Philipp Einfalt
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Philipp Einfalt


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Age : 53
Location : Germany NRW
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeThu 21 Oct - 18:13

@ Gustav!
I will take new pics in the next days. I show the pics then here.
regards
Philipp
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Gustav Eloy
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Gustav Eloy


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Age : 37
Location : Aguascalientes, Mexico
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeFri 22 Oct - 12:26

thanks a lot for your answer, I´ll be waiting for them, by the way is there any chances to export this species for you and send a pair to meexico?? its because they are simply awesome, thanks in advance
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Michael Burmeister
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Age : 43
Location : South Africa
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeFri 22 Oct - 17:29

Wow well done! I look forward to the pictures of your set up. These are stunning animals and it’s so good to see them being bred in captivity.
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Philipp Einfalt
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Philipp Einfalt


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Age : 53
Location : Germany NRW
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeSat 23 Oct - 18:56

@ Gustav!
All the babys are sold.
Yet in the next year, I will try to send you animals. I can`t promise that it functioned.
regards from Germany
Philipp



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Dennis Kollarits
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Age : 45
Location : Vienna,Austria
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeSun 14 Nov - 0:53

Hello Philipp,

beautiful snakes!
Can you give some information on the ontogenetic color change in your specimens?
Specifically at what age did the coloration change and at what age was the development to the full adult pattern finished?
How do these changes manifest themselves?
Does it match what has been documented in literature; namely the change to green at about 6 months of age and final shift at 1,5 to 2 years?
Is the locality of the parents known?

many thanks,

Dennis Kollarits


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Philipp Einfalt
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Philipp Einfalt


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Age : 53
Location : Germany NRW
Points : 5282
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeSun 14 Nov - 2:02

Hi Dennis!
I can`t give you informations about the color change because its the first breeding. I will document the development here. The parents are from Meidinger Costa Rica. I have no further information to the origin.
cheers
philipp
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Sascha Beckhoff
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Age : 42
Location : Nrw,Germany
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeMon 15 Nov - 20:10

Congrats mate.awesome little critters!!!!!Good luck with them

Best Regards
Sascha
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeTue 16 Nov - 2:49

The parents are remarkable!!!!
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Walter Silva
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Location : Perú
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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeMon 22 Jul - 7:53

)Philipp:

How are the babies? (in this time are adult), is difficult the feeding for babies? please, more tips about this.

Do you have pics about the color change??

Thanks for your time, and have a good day
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Philipp Einfalt
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Philipp Einfalt


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Number of posts : 73
Age : 53
Location : Germany NRW
Points : 5282
Registration date : 2010-09-19

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PostSubject: Re: CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis   CB 2010 Bothriechis lateralis Icon_minitimeMon 12 Aug - 18:01

@ Walter! The babies are ok. The feeding is difficult . In the first month they eat without problems. Later they only eat after poking. The two remaining of 2010 are bluish. The one from 2009 is green.
What other information would you like? I'll create new images.
With kind regards
Philipp
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