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Yoine Bohman Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 39 Location : sweden, Karlstad Points : 5074 Registration date : 2010-12-14
| Subject: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Wed 29 Dec - 6:50 | |
| Hello
Im looking for 1.1 Albino naja such as naja kaouthia and atra. Im also looking for Bitis nasicornis. All snakes should be healthy and good. My friend is going to Hamm fair in march.
Regards Yoine.b | |
| | | Jon Davidson Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 512 Age : 69 Location : Toronto area, Canada Points : 6272 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Wed 29 Dec - 10:52 | |
| - Yoine Bohman wrote:
- Hello
Im looking for 1.1 Albino naja such as naja kaouthia and atra. Im also looking for Bitis nasicornis. All snakes should be healthy and good. My friend is going to Hamm fair in march.
Regards Yoine.b Yeah...? Why not try looking for colour morph venomous snakes on another web site. Sincerely, Jon Davidson . | |
| | | Peter Zürcher Admin
Number of posts : 1266 Age : 72 Location : Carinthia, Austria Points : 8271 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Re: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Wed 29 Dec - 18:19 | |
| Looking for a pair of those amelanistic (not albinos) is telling me you are going to breed them - so let me tell you two things: first: at least in the case of kaouthia you'll find a well overflooded market. second: I won't breed colour morphs anyway - but if i would produce amelanistic snakes, i wouldn't do that amel. X amel.,but amel. X het. amel. or het. amel. X het amel. regards Peter | |
| | | Guenter Leitenbauer Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1389 Age : 58 Location : Gunskirchen / Austria Points : 7277 Registration date : 2008-05-17
| Subject: Re: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Wed 29 Dec - 20:09 | |
| Hi Peter, For my understanding: What is the advantage in doing so? Regards, Guenter | |
| | | Peter Zürcher Admin
Number of posts : 1266 Age : 72 Location : Carinthia, Austria Points : 8271 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Re: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Wed 29 Dec - 20:34 | |
| Well, Guenter, it hasn't been reported in Cobras so far, but in Boas, Rattlesnakes and Pythons, where additional defects like missing eyes, buckled tails or strange behaviour established in some strains, where specimens monozygous for some defect mutation (and perhaps more or less related) have been crossed. So as a breeder of those "morphs" i would be careful and use "hets" (which will add "new blood"), or at least unrelated specimens. Cheers Peter | |
| | | Yoine Bohman Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 39 Location : sweden, Karlstad Points : 5074 Registration date : 2010-12-14
| Subject: Re: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Wed 29 Dec - 21:30 | |
| Im only looking for Bitis nasicornis now. Regards Yoine.B | |
| | | Guenter Leitenbauer Lord of the Serpents
Number of posts : 1389 Age : 58 Location : Gunskirchen / Austria Points : 7277 Registration date : 2008-05-17
| Subject: Re: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Wed 29 Dec - 22:20 | |
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| | | David Nixon Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 156 Age : 42 Location : Staffordshire, UK Points : 6059 Registration date : 2008-09-19
| Subject: Re: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Fri 31 Dec - 3:09 | |
| - Jon Davidson wrote:
- Yoine Bohman wrote:
- Hello
Im looking for 1.1 Albino naja such as naja kaouthia and atra. Im also looking for Bitis nasicornis. All snakes should be healthy and good. My friend is going to Hamm fair in march.
Regards Yoine.b Yeah...? Why not try looking for colour morph venomous snakes on another web site. Sincerely, Jon Davidson . Jon, the guy is simply asking a question - on venomland, there is a section for buying and selling snakes. It makes no difference if they are a morph or not, so why is he doing so wrong by asking? I TOO, do not care much for colour morphs, but myself, along with dozens of other venomous keepers have kept them in the past. If you feel so strogly about him not keeping morphs, back your responce up, with a valid reason.... like Peter did! I've said it before - it's a decent forum, let's keep it that way! Cheers, Dave | |
| | | Yoine Bohman Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 39 Location : sweden, Karlstad Points : 5074 Registration date : 2010-12-14
| Subject: Re: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Fri 31 Dec - 3:27 | |
| Thank you peter for sharing that info very intresting. Im still looking for a Bitis nasicornis.
Best regards Yoine.b | |
| | | Jon Davidson Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 512 Age : 69 Location : Toronto area, Canada Points : 6272 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Fri 31 Dec - 4:32 | |
| - David Nixon wrote:
Jon, the guy is simply asking a question - on venomland, there is a section for buying and selling snakes. It makes no difference if they are a morph or not, so why is he doing so wrong by asking? I TOO, do not care much for colour morphs, but myself, along with dozens of other venomous keepers have kept them in the past. If you feel so strogly about him not keeping morphs, back your responce up, with a valid reason.... like Peter did!
I've said it before - it's a decent forum, let's keep it that way!
Cheers,
Dave
I apologize if my tone upset you, Dave. I was offering a helpful suggestion to the young fellow by directing him to other websites (such as 'kingsnake.com'; etc.). I bet most members here on Venomland know my view on captive produced colour morph and hybrid animals- Mr. Zurcher in particular. I agree that this is a good forum and that it should stay that way so that all members here can express themselves candidly. Sincerely, Jon Davidson . | |
| | | Stefan Anthonijsz Serpent Chief
Number of posts : 556 Age : 37 Location : the Netherlands Points : 6276 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| | | | Yoine Bohman Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 39 Location : sweden, Karlstad Points : 5074 Registration date : 2010-12-14
| Subject: Re: Naja albino & Bitis nasicornis Wed 5 Jan - 2:54 | |
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