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Peter Zürcher
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Before you'll read it in some newspapers or other forums:
A friend of mine has been killed by a Crotalus terrificus today at my home. He has been a caretaker for venomous snakes at my zoo earlier - and the circumstances of that accident are more than strange.
Shocked greetings
Peter
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It's a black day for our hobby...
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Very sad to hear this Peter....
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PostSubject: Re: Bad news - Death by Crotalus durissus   Bad news - Death by Crotalus durissus Icon_minitimeThu 24 Mar - 13:20

Hello Peter

That's a tragedy, I am realy realy sorry and shocked at the same time - very sad news ! :-(

Best whishes
Marco
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Oh man, I am really sorry to hear that, Peter.
Thanks for bring it up to us personally, before we hear about it in the media, in all the wrong context.

Hang in there, man, and good luck. Most, if not all of us, wish you, his family, and his friends the best.


I hope we get more details as time goes on, from the proper source, and not blown out details from a media free for all...
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I am very sorry to hear what happened. Condolences to you loosing a friend.

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I am very sorry to hear this, and I admire your courage in making this statement here on the forum.

Please let me know if there is anything I can do.


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My sympathy Peter!
Me and Claudia were both shocked when we read from it in the ORF teletext. As he was an earlier caretaker, I simply cannot understand how he could do this.
From my visits I know how extremly carefully You always make sure that all cages are locked.
Regards,
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I´m shocked and sorry for this lost , my deepest condolences .
Be strong these days...,we think of you .
Regards,
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My condolences,too!

Regards Fabian
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I am very sorry to hear it, and surprised at the same time. Thanks for bringing it to us personally, although you are feeling very bad now. I hope it will not cause you any further problems. If there is anything I can do, just let me know...

Best regards,
Peter
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PostSubject: Re: Bad news - Death by Crotalus durissus   Bad news - Death by Crotalus durissus Icon_minitimeThu 24 Mar - 15:47

Dear Peter,

I am very sorry to read this.

It´s a black day for your friend and his family and you first of all and maybe one for our hobby. But that is not so important at this moment.

If you need any help from me/us, you have my phone-number and address, don´t hesitate to ask.

With deep condolences,
Rainer (and Ruth of course)
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My condolences,
Always it is one tragically to read these events inside our hobie.
Indeed that I sit very much this tragic event.

Regards and condolences from españa.


Sorry for my inglis
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Condolences,
Sad to hear.
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Dear Peter,

that's really bad news, not very far from what I would call worst case. I'm so sorry for your loss - and of course for his family.
Although you will never forget that there are still and for any time unanswered questions, I hope you at least won't get in legally trouble about this tragic case of death.

All the best

Peter


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My condolences Peter to you and to your friend's family.

Best regards, BKK
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This is sad news. My condolences to the family and friends of this individual. I wish you all the best during this difficult time, Mr. Zurcher. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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It's sad, very sad. My condolences to his family and friends Crying or Very sad
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Sad to read this, Peter... very shocking... Sad

Also my condolences for you and his family.
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I' heard about it a few minutes ago, very sad information. Condolences to family and friends. Unfortunately it can happen everyday to many of us...
Best regards,
Robert.
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Very sorry to hear this Peter. When you have time, I would like to know the circumstances, as it may help others.

Randy
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Also my condolences to you and the other people and family involved...
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I am very sorry to hear it, it´s tragedy. My deepest condolences.
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I am very sorry to hear this.

My condolences.
I wish you all the best and lots of strength !

Ambros
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a realy bad story this.
my condolences to you and the familie peter..
gr jorg
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