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PostSubject: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeWed 4 Jun - 9:50

Well, I thought I'd share since I'm not sleepy yet...

In February, a yellow female dropped 9 unfertilized eggs and 3 tiny babies. I'm not 100% sure who the father is, since this female shared a terrarium with a green male for about two years. No action ever witnessed. In 2007 this female copulated with "0601", so he might be the father...

First the two males. The second one is a bit difficult for me to photograph, so his photo is the one taken shortly after birth. He's light grey, but in photos he appears mostly turqoise. I need to practice...
The third one is the female.
Hope you enjoy...

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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeWed 4 Jun - 22:02

Hey Christian!
Congrats - these are cute little squams!

I like the first one a lot!

Great!
Beste wishes
René
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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeThu 5 Jun - 3:41

Those guys are looking great, Christian! I love the banded ones, but I also can get attached to a nice solid colored animal no matter what color it is, you know? So that female is really cool for that, plus she's GOLD! Bonus! Nice man, thanks for sharing.
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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeSat 7 Jun - 6:48

Thank you very much guys! Glad you like them.
I too like the first one. Can't wait to see how it turns out. I kinda hope both males would stay grey or at least turn into something other than green... Wink

I used to desire mostly single colored, patternless individuals in the beginning, but have since started to really appreciate every variation. Still, it would be nice to have one solid colored specimen of each color in my collection Laughing

I used to have a larger copy of Louis Porras' photo (Fauna, Vol. 1, No. 2, 1997) on my wall in which there were solid blue, red and orange as well as green/yellow & black/turqoise specimens, one each. I used to look at that and wonder if I'd ever be able to even keep this species to begin with...
Come to think of it, I liked that photo so much I wrote a letter to mr. Porras, asking if that photo might be available as a poster. I sent the letter to the magazine and asked the staff to forward it to him. Surprisingly they did do that and mr. Porras was kind enough to personally reply. That was cool.
How's that for trivial nostalgia? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeTue 22 Jul - 17:14

Well done Christian, great looking babies Smile

By the way, I did get your last very sad email, will reply soon
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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeTue 22 Jul - 23:45

Hey Christian, I had some gray-banded baby squams born in January that turned a bluish tone after they shed. It seemed the darker they were at birth, the more blue they expressed once they had their first shed. Good looking babies either way.
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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeTue 22 Jul - 23:52

I just realized that if you look at Derek's topic below this one (squam babies '07) the last two babies came from my litter born in January. The ones I held back look like the last one pictured except the greenish colors are replaced with blue. Here is a picture of one I held back.
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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeWed 30 Jul - 5:21

Thanks a lot Al & Brance.

Al, yeah, things took a turn for worse indeed. I'm looking forward to hearing from you.

Brance, your hold-back is very nice looking specimen.
The male on the first pic of this post shed two days ago, and didn't really change in appearance as far as I can tell. I wonder if that's the way it's gonna be...
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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeSat 30 Aug - 20:23

New shots from yesterday, just for the hell of it.

Actually, I have a new camera I'm trying out, and I'm desperately trying to figure out how to more consistently get ok photos with it. So far it seems that my old little camera gets me better results, with the new one it's a complete lottery... Laughing

Individuals are in the same order as in the original post.

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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeSun 31 Aug - 2:22

Love that yellow/ gold female. She would pair up nicely with my solid orange '07 male.
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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeSun 31 Aug - 6:39

Looks like you WON the lottery with that last photo!!! Nice depth, it's very sharp, and I love the butter tips on the scales there! What type of camera and lens did you get?

The males are a bit disappointing since they haven't done anything interesting yet, but the female makes up for it! Nice!
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Very nice, especially that first one would look much better in my terrarium Wink
I have to agree that the last photo rocks. And you must be a magician or something to get such pictures with the camera you use Laughing Or did you use the new camera on these pics??
Please, keep posting more pics!
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PostSubject: Re: First '08 squamigera babies   First '08 squamigera babies Icon_minitimeSun 31 Aug - 7:14

Thanks guys!

Brance, I'm sure they'd create some kick-a** babies. Like I've said to Derek before, curse this distance... Evil or Very Mad

Derek, thanks. It's one of the best lottery prizes ever. Wish I had the actual skill required to take shots like that Laughing
I guess I could reveal my top-secret photographing technique; it's point, curse, shoot, curse some more, delete, (optional loud cursing), repeat X times until desired frame is born. Haha!
But seriously, my old camera was Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ5 and the new one is Panasonic Lumix DMC FZ-18. This new one really seems like a great camera, I just don't have the hang of it. That's why I haven't sold my old one yet...

I've been surprised to see that the males are not changing at all, really. Haven't even noticed if new black scales have appeared or not. Although, I do like them they way they are, I don't have any others which would look like them.

The mother of these three has been copulating with a green male today, for about 1-2 hours now, I think. Unbelievable!
The male has rather minimal pattern and I've not used him before, so I'd be grateful to see offspring from these two. I don't think there's going to be any hidden extras, but you never know Very Happy

Yeah, Stefan, I used the new gear on the updated shots. And I used the old one on the original shots on the first post.
Will do, as I get pics that I'm not too ashamed to bring to daylight Wink
I hope that eventually I could offer a baby like that to you too. We'll see...
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