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Andrew Hacket
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PostSubject: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 2:51

I have for many years now a male A.l.lubricus (for me the prettiest male I ever saw) , and every
year I try this male with 3 different females , but immediately on contact he wants to eat these females.
I try again tonight for the first time and same thing , he bight every single one !! He is well fed animal so these
are not starvation attacks.

Has anyone encountered such a male before ?
I am thinking about taping his mouth shut for a few days , eheh.

Regards
Andrew
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Andrew Hacket
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 2:55

I have tried female to male , put both into a new clean cage , nothing works this guy eats every time. I wonder what happen if I put him in my big Mussurana cage, teach the basterd a lesson.
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 3:19

Haha...maybe he's just not that into girls...wink wink...haha... Exclamation

Regards.
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 7:04

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Ro vd Bergh
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 7:10

I have some experience with male Naja sp. that will go into rage and bite every female but most will find a female eventualy that they don't see as a threat or food. But I also know one annulifera that just will kill every snake in range so you could just have a psycho. Sorry. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 9:06

Thanks Ro, I believe so !
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Graeme Skinner
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 15:14

Andrew Hacket wrote:
I have tried female to male , put both into a new clean cage , nothing works this guy eats every time. I wonder what happen if I put him in my big Mussurana cage, teach the basterd a lesson.

That last remark really put a smile on my face, good luck with your effort Andrew!
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Andrew Hacket
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 19:39

Thanks G Smile Update - I put my Blackhead Python female into a big tub last night and put the corals in a 1.8m glass sliding cage , it was really great to see them moving in such a big space.... Anyhow I left the glass cage open and every time he bit the female I smacked on the head with my big tweezers , I felt like I was playing an Xbox game Smile eventually he realize this biting is not working for him. I saw they was coupled this morning. I will separate them now and I will play more lubricus Xbox in the next few weeks with the other females.
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 19:49

This is the little Basterd cheers

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Ro vd Bergh
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 19:58

Andrew Hacket wrote:
Thanks G Smile Update - I put my Blackhead Python female into a big tub last night and put the corals in a 1.8m glass sliding cage , it was really great to see them moving in such a big space.... Anyhow I left the glass cage open and every time he bit the female I smacked on the head with my big tweezers , I felt like I was playing an Xbox game Smile eventually he realize this biting is not working for him. I saw they was coupled this morning. I will separate them now and I will play more lubricus Xbox in the next few weeks with the other females.

Laughing Laughing Laughing

Stunning animal you got there Exclamation

Cheers, Ro.
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 20:14

your a funny guy Andrew Hacket!

I wish you a grant HI score with your game (lots of coral youngsters Cool )
indeed a realy nice male, great head markings!
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 21:29

that is a stunning animal Andrew, im hoping to get hold of a couple soon
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 22:27

Beautiful male Andrew!
I hope you'll make them breed without more problems Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 23:12

Andrew Hacket wrote:
This is the little Basterd cheers

If he keeps giving you trouble you just give me the word an I'll take him of your hands faster then you can say Clelia clelia.. Wink

That's one stunning lubricus you have there...!
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Harold van der Ploeg
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSat 17 Sep - 23:58

Amazing colored animal Andrew!
I keep them in groups (males/females) for years. Sometime I switch animals for breeding and then it can happen that some smaller males are afraid of bib females. Also males together can be a bit problematic, so I keep one male with several females. I have never lost animals because one of them was cannibalistic. I even feed them together (but I always stay in the snakeroom when I feed the Aspidelaps sp. till the finished.


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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSun 18 Sep - 3:52

Thanks Venomlander's and also Harold for your insight. Also interesting is that male although looking Cb is infact a WC animal. They occur sometimes in the wild like this ...You wouldn't think so.

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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSun 18 Sep - 3:55

@ Chaim , thank for the HIGH SCORE wishing LOL

@ Jan - CLELIA CLELIA !! too late I said it Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSun 18 Sep - 4:18

Harold ! did you get any of these E.s.lonigicauda in your collection yet ? They get MASSIVE 1.2m ..I just put mine together again this year last year plenty male action no female action. Damn Bitches Razz

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Chaim Haveman
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSun 18 Sep - 5:14

Wow, that E.s.lonigicauda is truely a stunner!!! thanks for sharing
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Harold van der Ploeg
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSun 18 Sep - 5:54

Amazing longicauda Andrew!!
Thanks for sharing. Nice picture as well Smile



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That's one stunning 1.2 meters! Shocked

Cheers, Ro.
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PostSubject: Re: Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time.   Cannibalistic Individual eating my females every time. Icon_minitimeSun 18 Sep - 6:34

Only babies look like this Ro. They change when they get older.
This is a subadult E.s.longicauda I got from Frank last Hamm expo:

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Can you post some pictures of the big ones Andrew?

Thanks in advance,
Harold
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Sure. This is a fair size one killed on the road, I measured this one just short of 1m.

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@Harold; Well that's kind of dissapointing than... Laughing

Cheers, Ro.
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@ Ro - Yes its a shame the banding goes. Another adult

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