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Jon Davidson
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PostSubject: of Possible Interest...   of Possible Interest... Icon_minitimeThu 17 Nov - 3:11
Important and timely new publication. Please refer to: http://www.ugapress.org/index.php/books/invasive_pythons . Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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PostSubject: Re: of Possible Interest...   of Possible Interest... Icon_minitimeThu 17 Nov - 3:20
Thanks Mr. Davidson!

The US must have a serious problem with them...to write a book over this!
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You are most welcome, Mr. Van Issem. Lets all hope that this problem does not become worse. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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Yes, but we here in Germany can be very relax about ,,free Phytons´´. Because, one realy cold winter and the problem is solved!
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PostSubject: Re: of Possible Interest...   of Possible Interest... Icon_minitimeThu 17 Nov - 4:24
Fitting into this thread maybe but not into "Venomland" in general:

In Central-Europe we can be relaxed about these pythons but not about intruders in general.

In a vast part of Europe we have an "invader" that does not seem as dangerous as a python but may do as much harm to our ecosystems. It is a nice little beetle, a ladybird-beetle (Coccinella). Introduced for economical reasons first in the Netherlands as a pest-control in fruit-plantations. There would have been no need for that, in any organic agriculture there are - better: used to be - lots of indigenous species of Coccinella... to keep aphids and other "pest-insects" at a low rate. Last year they had reached South-East Austria. This year I did not find a single specimen of any of the European species of Coccinela whereas I would have found dozens in an hour in my garden in previous years.

No matter whether "potentially dangerous" pythons or "nice and useful" beetles, the question is whether humans will ever be smart enough to know what they are doing when they intervene in nature´s way.

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PostSubject: Re: of Possible Interest...   of Possible Interest... Icon_minitimeMon 21 Nov - 20:55
Rainer Fesser wrote:
Fitting into this thread maybe but not into "Venomland" in general:

In Central-Europe we can be relaxed about these pythons but not about intruders in general.

In a vast part of Europe we have an "invader" that does not seem as dangerous as a python but may do as much harm to our ecosystems. It is a nice little beetle, a ladybird-beetle (Coccinella). Introduced for economical reasons first in the Netherlands as a pest-control in fruit-plantations. There would have been no need for that, in any organic agriculture there are - better: used to be - lots of indigenous species of Coccinella... to keep aphids and other "pest-insects" at a low rate. Last year they had reached South-East Austria. This year I did not find a single specimen of any of the European species of Coccinela whereas I would have found dozens in an hour in my garden in previous years.

No matter whether "potentially dangerous" pythons or "nice and useful" beetles, the question is whether humans will ever be smart enough to know what they are doing when they intervene in nature´s way.

Best regards,
Rainer

Just observed many of these, two days back and I was really suprised how many of these 'Ladybird-Beetles' were actually an invasive species and how many of them were Endemic. From more than 100 ladybird-beetles less than 10% were actually native ladybird-beetles. Al others were 'Multicolred' imported Asian species. I observe these for I'm interested in their colour mutations and they have spread like plague. I also found some clues for possible hybridisation between the two species but as I'm no scientist I can't confirm that. I have about 50 ladybird-beetles with about 20 different forms that I collected at my friend's house. All of them are invasive species.

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