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PostSubject: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeWed 30 Nov - 4:14

Hey guys,

I just came a across a 2008 CBB Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus. Can you all tell me if it truely is a Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus, the coloring seems to be a lil darker than what I have seen. Anyways, check out the picture and let me know what you all think.

Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Aspedi10

Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Coralc10

Thanks

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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeWed 30 Nov - 5:04

Looks like an A. l. infuscatus to me... but I think that taxon was removed so now it's just A. lubricus.

It could also be minor difference in colouring inside the normal range of varience within a species.
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeWed 30 Nov - 15:19

Koshy in my opinion that snake is Aspidelaps l. cowlesi (infuscatus was dropped so only A. l. lubricus and cowlesi apply)
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeWed 30 Nov - 16:24

Hi there,

I agree, definitively an A.lubricus cowlesi.

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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeThu 1 Dec - 14:55

Ok I was pretty sure it wasn't a Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus. Thanks guys. Is the care and general behavior similar to Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?

My plan was to keep it in a medium ExoTerra cage 60 x 45 x 45 cm / 24” x 18” x 18” (WxDxH). My intentions were to create a naturalistic enclosure with the use of sand and gravel for substrate and maybe a succulent for flora. Do you all recommend a radiant heat panel or under tank heat mat? I was planning on setting the warm side to 87 degrees Fahrenheit (I think that's 30 degrees Celsius). Lighting would be 12hrs provided by florescent tube. Any suggestions or recommendations?

Thanks again for all the assistance!

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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeThu 1 Dec - 16:18

Hi there,

On my side, I keep them in a 80x60x70cm (length, depth, height) enclosure. My only heating source is the light with a normal glow bulb. I get every year mating and eggs like that. Temperature is about 32c in summer during day, and 25 over night.

Here a picture of the enclosure

Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Dsc_0022
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeThu 1 Dec - 20:26

Seems to be Aspidelaps L. Cowlesi!!
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeFri 2 Dec - 5:49

Thanks Lucas, for the info. Your tank looks amazing!
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeFri 2 Dec - 17:05

You're welcome!

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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeTue 14 Aug - 22:21

I too have just bought a Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus or so im told. Its a male around 4 years of age. here's a pic maybe you guys can help me identify my snake as you did with Koshy George


Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Dscf5711
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeTue 14 Aug - 23:41

That is a A.l.cowlesi as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeWed 15 Aug - 8:35

Paul Bester wrote:
That is a A.l.cowlesi as well.

Thanks i thought as much. Just out out curiosity how can you tell?
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeWed 15 Aug - 18:40

Mike Pipierfield wrote:
Paul Bester wrote:
That is a A.l.cowlesi as well.

Thanks i thought as much. Just out out curiosity how can you tell?

The colouration and markings are much different.
Here is a (bad) pic of my A.l.lubricus:

Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Coral

If you want I can send you a paper on the genus Aspidelaps?
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeWed 15 Aug - 20:35

I would love paper on the genus Aspidelaps. And also do you know of any A.l.lubricus breeders willing to ship to Canada?
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeWed 15 Aug - 22:34

PM me your e-mail and I will send you the paper. I know of people who breed them here, but I dont think they export them.
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PostSubject: Re: Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus?   Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus? Icon_minitimeFri 17 Aug - 3:40

Paul Bester wrote:
PM me your e-mail and I will send you the paper. I know of people who breed them here, but I dont think they export them.

did you get my pm?
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