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 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.

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Louis Jacobsz
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PostSubject: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeMon 13 Feb - 15:09

After a confusing start to the mating season he finally got it right and the female dropped 6 (4.2) healthy babies, no slugs and no stillborns.

The confusion:

http://www.venomland.net/t4819-confused-cerastes-vipera

The result:

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2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Woomas_063_28768_x_51229

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2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Sand_010_28768_x_51229

One happy mom...

2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Woomas_049_28512_x_76829

And the little ones having their first feed...Please excuse my dirty lens.

2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. First_eat_vipera_001_28768_x_51229

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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeMon 13 Feb - 18:21

Good Morning Louis,

congratulations! Cute little cerastes you got there.

Kind Regards, Manuel Ebert
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeMon 13 Feb - 19:39

Congrats on that cute little sidewinders !
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeTue 14 Feb - 1:38

Looks nice Louis!

Congrats, to the youngsters!
I can remember my first baby C. vipera. I don´t breed them by my self, I bought fresh born ones on a german Reptile Expo, for very cheep money, because the breeder don´t wanna try to feed them, or has not the time for this. I was so happy the day, they feed there fist compl. Pinky by them self... and than the grow up very fast.

I hope you will have succes with them, a real nice and intresting snake.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeTue 14 Feb - 15:14

Thanks a lot guys !

@Peter, did you scent the pinkies or did they take them just like that ?

They are truly interesting little snakes with lots of personality !

Regards.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeWed 15 Feb - 1:26

Hi Louis,

first I have try to feed them with parts from babymices, but they don´t acceped them. I forcefeed them with legs and so... Then I start to wash the pinkys and after drying I add ,,Lizard Maker´´ from T-Rex. It woks in this case. Not all the time, but with each feeding time more and more. I´m not sure if it was the result with this product or the still trying and trying with washed mices. But after some weeks the grow up, and start to feed non markered mices also. After this, they acceped everthing I gave to them. To use a real Lizard will maby also bring good results? Maby better! But to wash the typical mice smell is very important to me! Some mices are real skunks ;-)
Fingercrossing for yours!
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeWed 15 Feb - 5:22

Awesome pics. Little cute ones
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeWed 15 Feb - 8:45


Very nice done!
But
Eating pinkis on the picture?
It looks like lizard tails to me?
cant see the pinkis anywhere, am i missing som pics?
reg
Mats
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeWed 15 Feb - 16:18

Thanks guys !

@Peter, thanks for the advice, I'll give it a go and see how they do. I'll keep you posted !

@Mats, In the pictures they are feeding on gecko tails. I have bred these before and thought I'd try something new this time (thought it would get them feeding by themselves faster). I'll start trying the "washed" pinkie idea from their next feed onwards.

Kind regards
Louis.
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeWed 15 Feb - 17:36

Hello Peter,

is the Lizard Maker still available ?

rgds Fabian
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeThu 16 Feb - 1:20

Hi Fabian,
I don´t know, but when you google them, you can find some on shop sites. I´m not sure if this sites are ,,up to date´´ or not!
The C. vipera feeding sesion is now around 10 years ago, mabye longer...
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PostSubject: Re: 2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived.   2012 Cerastes vipera have arrived. Icon_minitimeThu 16 Feb - 2:10

I had good success with newborn Natal rats/multimamate mice/African soft fur rats.
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