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+19Peter Zürcher Rafał Broński Piero Moroni Shawn Caswell Trey Keyes Gustavo Toledo Bob Herrington Philipp Einfalt Nigel Sowter Pascal Buri Lukáš Vítek Jaroslav Karhánek Andrew Hacket Omar Abraham Nelo Sami Heikkinen Jean-Pierre Linossier Manuel Ebert Tomaz Jagar Rene Schenk 23 posters |
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Rene Schenk Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 113 Age : 67 Location : Switzerland Points : 6090 Registration date : 2008-11-05
| Subject: Atheris hispida Wed 15 Feb - 5:46 | |
| I'm in love they're so cute and handsome. Rene BTW: that's a adult male, just shed. | |
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Tomaz Jagar Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 51 Age : 36 Location : Slovenia Points : 4765 Registration date : 2012-01-20
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Wed 15 Feb - 5:55 | |
| Gorgeus animal you have there Does anyone know of any animals available, perhaps on Hamm? | |
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Manuel Ebert Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 111 Age : 36 Location : Mainz, Germany Points : 5574 Registration date : 2010-01-18
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Wed 15 Feb - 6:13 | |
| Damn nice, Rene! One day I'll have some of them as well. The nicest Atheris sp.! Wish you good luck with them!
Kind Regards, Manuel | |
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Jean-Pierre Linossier Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 100 Age : 57 Location : France Points : 5033 Registration date : 2011-07-11
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Wed 15 Feb - 15:42 | |
| Stunning animal, have you got a female for him ? Could you tell us a little about your keeping parameters ?
Kind regards | |
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Sami Heikkinen Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 173 Age : 41 Location : Finland Points : 6028 Registration date : 2008-11-04
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Thu 16 Feb - 0:51 | |
| Stunning snakes as usual! Now hunting earthworms etc. for the buggers? How many of them did you get? | |
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Omar Abraham Nelo Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 72 Age : 40 Location : Venezuela Points : 5058 Registration date : 2011-04-14
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Thu 16 Feb - 1:49 | |
| amazin snake.... congrat!! | |
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Andrew Hacket Snakemaster
Number of posts : 448 Age : 45 Location : South Africa Points : 6427 Registration date : 2008-04-27
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Thu 16 Feb - 18:02 | |
| YOH !!! That's the best pictures I have seen of this species !! AMAZING !! Thank-you. | |
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Jaroslav Karhánek Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 213 Age : 34 Location : Czech republic Points : 5950 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Thu 16 Feb - 20:29 | |
| wow, amazing. If you could share with us some info about how you keep them and so on I would really appreciate it. And how many of them do you have? | |
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Lukáš Vítek Newbie
Number of posts : 8 Age : 39 Location : Czech Republic Points : 4684 Registration date : 2012-01-29
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Thu 16 Feb - 21:38 | |
| Dragon snake | |
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Pascal Buri Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 49 Location : Basel Switzerland Points : 5373 Registration date : 2010-03-18
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Fri 17 Feb - 16:41 | |
| For me one of the most beautiful snakes! What do you feed it with?
Best regards Pascal | |
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Nigel Sowter Snakemaster
Number of posts : 406 Age : 60 Location : Australia Points : 5597 Registration date : 2010-11-29
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Fri 17 Feb - 18:08 | |
| Can see why you are in love! Couple of questions posted in relation to food, what "things" do these stunning snakes feed on? | |
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Philipp Einfalt Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 73 Age : 53 Location : Germany NRW Points : 5275 Registration date : 2010-09-19
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Fri 17 Feb - 18:59 | |
| They are so beautiful ! and...please tell us something about the keeping... best regards philipp | |
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Bob Herrington Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 159 Age : 76 Location : USA Points : 5910 Registration date : 2009-02-26
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Fri 17 Feb - 21:13 | |
| Congratulations, beautiful snake and great pics. As most of the above have asked, let us know what you get it feeding on. Also it would be useful to keep notes on your environmental parameters. I wish you the best with these. | |
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Gustavo Toledo Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 42 Location : spain Points : 4776 Registration date : 2011-11-05
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Mon 26 Mar - 18:36 | |
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Gustavo Toledo Newbie
Number of posts : 12 Age : 42 Location : spain Points : 4776 Registration date : 2011-11-05
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Mon 26 Mar - 18:46 | |
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Trey Keyes Newbie
Number of posts : 28 Age : 34 Location : USA Points : 4695 Registration date : 2012-02-16
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Sun 1 Apr - 1:04 | |
| Rene, please detail on your success or lack thereof with hispida. I am very interested in the husbandry of them. | |
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Shawn Caswell Newbie
Number of posts : 32 Age : 40 Location : Pennsylvania, USA Points : 5078 Registration date : 2011-02-14
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Sat 14 Apr - 1:48 | |
| Rene, absolutely stunning hispida!!! | |
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Piero Moroni Snakemaster
Number of posts : 261 Location : Groningen (NL) Points : 4733 Registration date : 2012-04-12
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Sat 14 Apr - 4:17 | |
| A feast for the eyes your photos, a beautiful beast. Best.. | |
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Rafał Broński Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 185 Age : 39 Location : Poland Points : 4952 Registration date : 2011-12-11
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Thu 18 Dec - 4:35 | |
| I could watch for hours, really beautiful . I also hope that I will succeed in the end to buy his dragon, for some time, this is my holy grail. The most beautiful. | |
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Peter Zürcher Admin
Number of posts : 1266 Age : 72 Location : Carinthia, Austria Points : 8311 Registration date : 2008-03-06
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Thu 18 Dec - 20:33 | |
| Are there reports of succesful breedings? As far as i know only a few specimens, if any at all, have been kept alive in captivity for a really long time.
Definitely a species which should be left in the wilderness in my opinion. | |
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Stefan Olsson Jr Snakekeeper
Number of posts : 74 Age : 74 Location : Earth Points : 5524 Registration date : 2009-12-31
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Sat 20 Dec - 20:46 | |
| Peter,
And no matter how many times the truth you're expressing is re-mentioned, the downward spiral continues.
The hispida story is a BIG shame on the herpetological community. | |
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Rene Schenk Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 113 Age : 67 Location : Switzerland Points : 6090 Registration date : 2008-11-05
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Wed 24 Dec - 19:38 | |
| Sorry guys about the very late answer. I do not Keep hispidas anymore, and will never again buy any of these. Peter Zürcher is right, this spp does not belong in a cage, to many things are unknown about the feeding and their needed pray. I tried almost everything but the animals died anyway. I had 2 babies from a gravid animal and they where doing good, eating snails on there own from the beginning, but after 3 months they died within one week. What i found out is that they eat a special snail with the housing, and this snail i could not find. The parasites you can eliminate and the climat is not that difficult, but the food seems to be the point. So please iff you want them go to africa and pick them yourself including the necessary snails. | |
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toni beckman Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 137 Age : 52 Location : finland Points : 5739 Registration date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Thu 25 Dec - 0:53 | |
| I think that last three comments (up), has created one of the most important discussion since long time. Small but full of respect. | |
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Radovan Muška Newbie
Number of posts : 31 Age : 37 Location : Slovakia Points : 5465 Registration date : 2010-01-07
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Thu 25 Dec - 3:23 | |
| Hello,
firstly I should mention that I have never kept this species.I just feel a need to write here something. As far as I remember well,these bushvipers have been already successfuly bred - at least 3 times. Robert Meidinger has even written an article published in magazine Elaphe.I was surprised after reading the paper since it seemed like "not so hard to keep" species.
Meidinger, R. 2000. Erfolgreiche Haltung und Erstnachzucht von Atheris hispidus, der Rauhschuppigen Buschviper. Elaphe 8 (4): 5-10
Another article has been published by a person from Germany.Unfortunately I have never read the stuff.Well,now I am thinking if it is about successful breeding or "only" successful keeping but I think it does not matter.
Fleck, J. 2003. Bemerkungen zur Haltung und Fütterung von Atheris hispida LAURENT 1995. Elaphe 11 (2): 38-42
And the last case I am aware of has been in Czech republic.An extremely experienced person has successfuly bred them in captivity too.There is no article about it.I just remember few main points about captive care shared few years back through a forum.
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the main problem is they have pretty fast metabolism.This simply is not like squamigera,nitschei etc.Therefore they do not last without water or food too long.I believe after the capture by hunters in wild they are just left without any care,waiting till export into Europe/USA etc.This is the most important part - simply the shorter waiting the better.
After arriving: rehydratation,no deworming !,naturally furnished cage,earthworms as food,low night time drop 14-16 °C - many breeders do underestimate this rule in my opinion and daily spraying...
I know that is just a theory and practice can turn into a horror movie but once a person is SKILLED ! mainly with WC reptiles,treatment etc and has the unique breeding sensitivity,so why not to try this species ? I believe A.hispida is the category exactly for this kind of people.I am just glad that they are not imported so frequently in high numbers.
Best regards, Radovan
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Rafał Broński Snakecharmer
Number of posts : 185 Age : 39 Location : Poland Points : 4952 Registration date : 2011-12-11
| Subject: Re: Atheris hispida Thu 25 Dec - 4:04 | |
| I see an interesting discussion, I've read just about the biggest problem is feeding. Despite this, I think it's one of the most beautiful snakes. Hi Radovan Muška, or you can buy this magazine somewhere? (Elaphe 8 (4): 5-10). Thank you. | |
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