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Marco Kunz
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PostSubject: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeThu 31 May - 3:14

Hello everybody!

After i had introduced myself i would like to show you my room's and cages!
Hope you like it....!

I start with my half room.....(maybe i can use the whole room in future....depends on my wife) ;-)

Picture's of the room

My two and a half snake room's Img_34100t7sl

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My C. horridus "atricaudatus" cage and snake (female cb 2010)

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My C. atrox cage and snake (male cb 2010)

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My B. gabonica gabonica cage and snake (female wc from 2010)

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My B. gabonica gabonica cage and snake (male wc from 2010)

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My C. horridus "atricaudatus" cage and snake (male cb 2010)

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My two and a half snake room's Img_3420l1uu2

My two and a half snake room's Img_34211uu4c

Enjoy it....sorry for the bad quality of the pictures....it's an old camera!

regards

Marco


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Piero Moroni
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeThu 31 May - 3:35

Hi Marco ;

You have a beautiful room with beautiful cages.
It is handmade and it is a specific brand ? scratch

Very nice your pets with my preference for gabonica gabonica Wink
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Marco Kunz
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeThu 31 May - 15:37

Hello Piero

Thank you!
Pictures from the other rooms will follow.

All the white coloured cages are handmade.
The other ones are bought. The decoration and the back walls are handmade.

The B. gabonicas are also my favorites.

regards

Marco
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Jens Westerbarkei
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeThu 31 May - 16:21

It's always a pain for me, to think about obliquely running walls for my Snakeroom. It's so much wasted room in me eyes. I'd like to stack my cages or place them on something, so that i don't have to prone, to watch my snakes. Anyway! You have quite beautiful and nice enclosures for your fosterlings!

Best regards.
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeThu 31 May - 17:26

nice cages and snakes!
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Marco Kunz
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeThu 31 May - 18:16

Hi

@ Jens: I know that's why i only use half of the room. It's not let's say perfect! ;-)
My other 2 rooms are as you described. There i have stacked my cages 3 high. Much better...pictures will follow at the weekend!

@ Sebastian: Thanks!

regards Marco
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Ren Monuo
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wow ,it is really cool
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Christian Hennemann
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeMon 18 Jun - 1:38

Hello Marco

beautiful room and have like Beac The Bitis snakes terrarium me very well. Is that normal leaves from the forest there? Or is it special? Make me want to also clean leaves.

regards

Christian
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Marco Kunz
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeMon 18 Jun - 17:37

Hello Christian

Thank you...as i wrote on top some other picture's will follow this week.
Everything you see on my pic's like the peace of wood, stones or the leaves is all from the forest.

I haven't "cleaned" it. What means no pre-treatment with heat (for example in the oven at about 150°C). I think it is not necessary but this is only my opinion.

regards Marco
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeMon 18 Jun - 18:15

Hello Marco

Thank you for your answer. Then I'll also try. Have a nice day.

regards

Christian
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Ronald Streeter
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeWed 20 Jun - 20:44

The habitats are a "feast" to the eyes. I enjoyed my "stay" in your serpentarium. They could be raised up on "tall" stands for viewing, but I also like how they look at the lower position. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeThu 21 Jun - 17:02

Thank you Ronald!
For me it is nearly the same as my other cages which are stacked. And with 1.1 B. gabonica, 1.0 C. atrox and 1.1 C. horridus "atricaudatus" i have some let's say "relaxed" snakes in the cages so it is not a big problem to handle them!

I think with some cobra's in there it would be completly different! ;-)

regards Marco
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeWed 27 Jun - 4:21

So back again and here are the pictures of my two other rooms.

The first room

The cages for my 1.2 Crotalus adamanteus
My two and a half snake room's Img_3527asgqp

The cages for 1.1 Crotalus molossus molossus (and one empty cage!!)
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The cages from both C. adamanteus females
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The cages from my 1.1 T. trigonocephalus
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My big boy Crotalus adamanteus from my friend Predrag which died (RIP my friend)

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Some pictures of my 1.1 Crotalus molossus molossus Santa Rita Mountains

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The second room

The cages from 0.1 Agkistrodon and 1.1 Crotalus oreganus helleri

My two and a half snake room's Img_3532ncw4b

The cages from 1.0 Agkistrodon and 2.0 Bitis arietans and 1.1 Crotalus viridis "nuntius"

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The Agkistrodon billieneatus howardgloydi pair...the male has molted (i hope this is the correct word) two days ago.

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One of my Bitis arietans from Kokstad

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I hope you enjoy it!

regards Marco
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeMon 30 Jul - 6:55

Great looking snakes and cages.
I am really wanting to try out "naturalistic" type enclosures, much more pleasing to the eye and probably more comfortable for the snake over a sterile tub enclosure.

Are you heating the cages strictly with light bulbs?
This seems to be the most cost effective way of heating large wooden enclosures.
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeMon 30 Jul - 15:21

Hi Brian

Yes i am heating only with the light bulbs. But this year i get some problems with the temperature of my rooms. The last few days here in germany were very hot. The room temperature is round about 30°C (sorry i am to lazy to convert it to F). So i have to change all my light bulbs to a lower watt level. That means in the 3 big cages 50W light bulbs and in the smal cages 25W so i think it's still bearable.

regards

Marco
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeMon 30 Jul - 18:28

Marco,

I've had the same trouble with under tank heat pads on glass enclosures, having to unplug heat entirely in the summer.
I guess the reason I am hesitant to use bulbs is because it seems they are considered "old technology" in favor of things like Radiant heat panels.

But hey, "If it aint broke, don't fix it"

Regards
Brian
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Marco Kunz
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeMon 30 Jul - 19:10

Hi Brian

or never change a running system! ;-)

regards

Marco
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Mike Brown
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeWed 1 Aug - 10:18

Beautiful setup and cages Marco. Very clean and appealing to the eyes. Im sure your animals appreciate it as well.
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thank you Mike!
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very nice cages and very nice snakes as well keep updating, regards
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Laszlo Livo
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeThu 2 Aug - 5:00

Hi Marco,

Are you sure about your Agkistrodon bilineatus howardgloydi?
They look Agk. b. bilineatus X Agk. contortix spp. for me.
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Hey my friend. Very nice cages and wondefull snakes. Especially the Howards.... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeThu 2 Aug - 17:21

Laszlo Livo wrote:
Hi Marco,

Are you sure about your Agkistrodon bilineatus howardgloydi?
They look Agk. b. bilineatus X Agk. contortix spp. for me.

Hi!
I've bought them as A. b. howardgloydi from a serious guy i know.
Why are you thinking about Agk. b. bilineatus X Agk. contortix spp.? I am very interested to get some feedback from you , do you have some pics
available from "real" A.b. howardgloydi? I can't find pics in the net?
Do you have some information how to determine this species?
There are only a few infromations about the howardgloydis in the net.

regards

Marco
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PostSubject: Re: My two and a half snake room's   My two and a half snake room's Icon_minitimeThu 2 Aug - 23:46

You have a "Dream Snakeroom"!

Congratulations by the beauty and detail
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The head markings and the body pattern are strange. I just observed the two small dots on the top of the head, which is also strange, because as I know it's characteristic for contortix spp.

Could you send me full body photos (top/bottom) and close up photos of the head (top/bottom/side)?
Your snakes are very interesting, after reading Gloyd and Conant's Agkistrodon book again, my first opinion can be wrong and it can be taylori instead of bilineatus.

If you PM me your email I can send you the howardgloydi description from Gloyd and Conant's book.

The howardgloydi photos:
Unfortunately I'm not allowed yet to post links, so I sent them in PM...
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