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PostSubject: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeMon 24 Mar - 23:26

Here some pictures of my breeding female of Naja atra, light colour phase from Taiwan.
The lady's 8 years old now and she just laid her third clutch today:



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First clutches (2006/2007) contained 11 eggs, today I found 15.
Well done, girlie, thank you!
Greetings from Austria, where it's a old national custom to find cobra eggs around Easter! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeTue 25 Mar - 3:25

Nice result, Peter. 15 eggs is really good quantity for atras... They are nice, I keep my fingers crossed for hatching of all babies for you...
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PostSubject: Happy Easter   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeFri 28 Mar - 23:47

Congrats Peter. Nice clutch, and the caging looks beautiful. Another specie I have not had the pleasure of keeping. One of the few. I have some Monacleds from my buddy Mitch of Diamond Reptile Breeders, that are possible het for Sunset and Leucistic. My female looks just like the one in your pics. She has the same type hood marking and pretty much the same color. Someone told Mitch crossed N. atra with N. kaouthia, but Mitch told me the other day, they are not atra at all. Hope to breed them next season when the male is old enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeSun 30 Mar - 1:25

Hello Petter
Do you have more other information of her locatility??

here is one of my07' Naja atra ,Hainan ,China
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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeThu 3 Apr - 21:22

yes, also from me - congrats Peter, nice animals - i like the atras...
pretty docile and relaxed are ours.


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picture of my couple atras from Taiwan:


enjoy!

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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeMon 19 May - 22:30

They hatch!
Incubation time 57 days at 28 - 29 degrees Celsius.
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a picture of the whole "gang" will be presented as soon as they're all out.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeMon 19 May - 22:40

you know i love them ....
tooo much...


thanks for this beautiful picture of few new lives...



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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeMon 19 May - 23:41

Congrats Peter! It's a nice result.

Best wishes,

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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeTue 20 May - 0:52

Wow ... what a moment!
Congratulations to the successful bred, Peter!
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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeTue 20 May - 1:14

Really nice Peter. I love this light coloured form...

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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeTue 20 May - 7:47

Nice Peter I hope my eggs hatch that fast. My B&W's usually hatch in less days than the Sumatrans, but with my luck the Russians and Sumatrans will take 75 days.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeFri 30 May - 21:31

And here they are, just done their postnatal shed.
Darker in coloration as adults, and with aberrant mask pattern, as the parents are.
One can see two color types: some of'em have bright spots, some do not and are uniform brown.

Believe it or not, the uniform brown specimens are males, the spotted ones females.
And yes, sexual dimorphism doesn't occur in the genus Naja, as far as I know.

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well, thats some beauties peter, congratulations!
lovely to see how cute they are.

pretty interesting finding on atras with the coloration differences between male and female. somebody els has the same experiences so far?


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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeSat 31 May - 1:05

Do they keep this dimorphism into adult age? What do You think?
Congratulations, real beauties.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeSat 31 May - 1:29

Quote :
Do they keep this dimorphism into adult age?
Yes, they do, we know it already, the light spottings in females will stay, whereas males will never develop any spots.
Due to ground colour changes, they're might not be that clearly visible in adults, but they're still present.
See pictures at the beginning of this thread. (female)
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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeSat 31 May - 11:37

Nice Peter

Can't wait for my stuff to start hatching. Some Cornsnakes started hatchling today, but my venomous has a while to go
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PostSubject: @ Peter   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeSat 31 May - 18:14

Hey cool man

Congratulations from Switzerland
they are absolutely beautiful and pretty cool little snakes Cool
Would love to keep some of the in the future, like atras, very cool Cobra species...

Good luck with them mate

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Congratulations! That are some very pretty babies!
Good luck raising them.

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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeSat 2 Aug - 19:22

and they all started best without problems.

two more pictures:

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Stunning little cobra's Cool
Good to hear they all started so well!

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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeMon 4 Aug - 18:05

I'm still sorting out about 2000 shots, Peter.
Will come up with some postprocessed soon (hope so). A first view showed that there are a couple of acceptable shots among the 2000.

Thanks again for the possibility to do this. Also besides photographing it was a great experience ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeMon 4 Aug - 18:27

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Also besides photographing it was a great experience ;-)

Especially Your "jumping contest" with our big Naja haje male? Very Happy

Cannot wait for some of Your excellent shots, I'm pretty satisfied with some of mine, but Your's belong to another league, somehow.

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PostSubject: Re: Naja atra, some pictures   Naja atra, some pictures Icon_minitimeMon 4 Aug - 19:03

Jumping out of a lying position, not easy for a man in my age :-D

Hope my shots will fulfill Your expectations ...
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