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Mario Lutz
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| Subject: Naja naja *polyocellata*  Fri 7 Mar - 2:28 | |
| well, this cobras are in my eyes among the most majestic Cobra species in the world. i keep 2,3 of them and they are always a bit nervous but quite gentle while been handled. my male is about 1.80cm in length and beautyful.  i am sure, you like them to! cheers Mario
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| | | | Peter Zürcher
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| | Subject: Re: Naja naja *polyocellata* Fri 7 Mar - 2:35 | |
| Nice animal, Mario, very well defined white markings on the body, but I think this guy's really bad.
Greetings
Peter | |
| | | | Mario Lutz
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| | Subject: Re: Naja naja *polyocellata* Fri 7 Mar - 8:23 | |
| no - he is a nice Guy... i am wondering, if all Naja naja are equipped with a nice temper. the snake on the Picture was used 4 weeks in a row, 4 times a day in our cobra-show. today he is like a cornsnake. i suppose de-sensibilisation is an issue...  here to see, an baby Sri Lanka cobra.. cheers Mario | |
| | | | Peter Pastor
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| | Subject: Re: Naja naja *polyocellata* Tue 11 Mar - 0:42 | |
| We are breeding this species regulary, at the moment there are babies hatching from first of our this year` clutches. They have quite high number of eggs in clutch, by our experience over 20 pcs. We got 24 eggs in first clutch, and 25 eggs in second clutch this year... Here are some pictures: Breeding male of size over 180 cm!!! Amazing specimen...   Female on eggs...  Clutches...first:   Second one:   Fresh hatched baby   According to calm behaivor, by our experience cobras become calm when you keep them in cage without hidding place. After few weeks they are like corn snakes, just laying on groud and don`t care about anything. But once you put such animal in cage with hidding box, it will change immediatelly and start to behaive again like wild animals, which in case of any disturbance looking to hide... | |
| | | | Mario Lutz
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| | Subject: Re: Naja naja *polyocellata* Tue 11 Mar - 12:43 | |
| - Peter Pastor wrote:
- According to calm behaivor, by our experience cobras become calm when you keep them in cage without hidding place. After few weeks they are like corn snakes, just laying on groud and don`t care about anything. But once you put such animal in cage with hidding box, it will change immediatelly and start to behaive again like wild animals, which in case of any disturbance looking to hide...
thats definitely right peter, i keep my cobras also without hiding places, and they act like cornsnakes. de-sensibilisation is another technic to keep them calm and handleable (see picture)... -please dont try to copy this! free-handling is clearly somethings for trained and experienced persons only! it is very dangerous to do stuff like this! cobras are wild animals and you never know how they react in another second! we do perform for TV and have shows in asia where freehandling is requested...  is your Naja naja a sri lankan species? i am asking, because my *polyocellata* looks different and i was thinking all sri lankan cobras have this black/white markings.. anyway - i love your male, outstanding beautiful.. and his size is impressing... i am hoping one of my females is gravid (she is really big)... Thanks for sharing peter... can we have some more information about your breeding peter? what temperature, humidity - etc. you keep your Naja naja? did they breed every year or every other year? you keep them all together around year? cheers Mario
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| | Subject: Naja naja polyocellata Tue 11 Mar - 17:56 | |
| Hello at all Magnificent animals, Naja naja to me is just the Cobra in every way. The pictures in this Thread do not show "polyocellata"  "polyocellata" was never widely accepted and should be treated as a synonym to Naja naja. It refers to a pattern variation (occuring in Sri Lankan specimens, i believe) showing additional ocelli beside the normal spectacle markings. Most of our Naja naja kept and bred in our collections came from Sri Lanka, and most of'em are "biocellata". And here's a "monocellata", a specimen with aberrant hood pattern out of my 2007 breeding. Unfortunately, it died soon after hatching. Sorry for the poor quality of the picture. Greetings from Austria Peter
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| | | | Mario Lutz
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| | Subject: Re: Naja naja *polyocellata* Tue 11 Mar - 19:30 | |
| - Peter Zürcher wrote:
"polyocellata" was never widely accepted and should be treated as a synonym to Naja naja.
Greetings from Austria
Peter yes peter, you are right, it is in fact to be treated as a synonyme, ill set it into capitals, so it is clear! thanks for the correction cheers Mario | |
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| | Subject: Re: Naja naja *polyocellata* Tue 11 Mar - 20:07 | |
| Okay, Mario, at this time, I think, it would be alright and correct to treat is as a synonyme.
But who knows what kind of taxonomical changes will come up with further research in asian Najas?
By the way, i would love to see a picture from a real polyocellated Naja naja.
Kind regards
Peter
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| | | | Peter Pastor
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| | | | | Mario Lutz
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| | Subject: Re: Naja naja *polyocellata* Fri 21 Mar - 9:37 | |
| thanks for sharing this picture peter... they are cute as babies as well... i find the Naja naja from Sri Lanka better looking.. my are so huge! and really nice to handle cobras
cheers
Mario | |
| | | | Randy Ciuros
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| | Subject: Great Pics Sat 29 Mar - 0:14 | |
| I'm loving this forum Mario. Thanks for the invite. My adult female Sri Lankan was last bred in Jan. 2005. She laid 30 eggs. 17 were good and hatched out in June 2005. I kept a pair. I sold the big male that produced the babies with her to Dean Ripa for his Serpentarium along with a huge female I had received in a trade.
My female was not put with a male since Jan 2005, but she laid 30 eggs again on 03/18/06. Only 1 egg looked good, so I incubated it. The baby hatched out but was very tiny, wouldn't eat, or keep food down, and didn't make it.
She laid eggs again last year, but none were good. This year she laid about 25 wax eggs and laid 1 egg on 3/16/08 that looked good, so I started incubating it, and it is still looking good after 12 days.
I don't like double clutching, but since the female laid only tiny wax eggs and one small good egg, I thought maybe I would try it. | |
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