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Sebastian Kling
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PostSubject: choice first naja?   choice first naja? Icon_minitimeFri 12 Oct - 6:12

hi, I wanted to know what kind do you recommend in naja like knowing that I am looking for a cobra max 1.2m adults and affects more than biting, beautiful color is a plus. I look forward to your advice
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PostSubject: Re: choice first naja?   choice first naja? Icon_minitimeFri 12 Oct - 20:50


Very nice naja (for me) is Naja pallida (traditional color is orange). And Naja naja is relatively routine colors, but pattern on the hood is amazing Very Happy (at least for me) Very Happy
To these (and NOT only these Very Happy) snakes venoms all people react differently!
There is my personal opinion.

Good luck, thanks,

Nojus
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PostSubject: Re: choice first naja?   choice first naja? Icon_minitimeFri 12 Oct - 21:16

Quote :
To these (and NOT only these Very Happy) snakes venoms all people react differently!

Not really!
Snake toxins can cause a whole bunch of main and side symptoms. One victim may develop severe symptoms of one type, and no or only slight symptoms of another type. In another victim this may be vice versa. This may not only depend on the victim, but also on the snake and several other circumstances.

Important are the severe,health- or life-threatening symptoms like tissue distruction or respiratory arrest.

I cannot see very different reactions here, the difference may lay only in the level of severity.
In the case of Naja pallida, you may need some plastic surgery, or you can loose a hand or a limb.
In the case of Naja naja, you may get a partial or complete respiratory failure, or you may get respiratory arrest within 30 minutes or within 2 hours.

These ain't the differences which should lead us to the claim that "all people react differently"!

Snake venoms have clearly defined functions - they destroy, or they block - and they're doing it not that different like your posting is able to suggest.
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Peter

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PostSubject: Re: choice first naja?   choice first naja? Icon_minitimeFri 12 Oct - 23:11

Yes yes, but be influenced by the person's age, overall health and...
All naja's are very dangerous, deadly and I know it. But surviving sometimes can (and as you said yourself) Wink... If I again said something in not detail, correcting me Surprised ,
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PostSubject: Re: choice first naja?   choice first naja? Icon_minitimeSat 13 Oct - 3:08

Thank you to you two, I am well aware of the danger to nla venom, but if you do not handle the animals except to provide care or cleaning terrariums, there is already less risk but I know very well that the zero risk does not exist and I am aware of. This is why I come to learn as it should be a place to buy and not to be informed as it should before.
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