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 Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus)

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Nej Palaganas
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Nej Palaganas


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PostSubject: Re: Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus)   Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus) - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 6 Feb - 4:10


my friends are telling me to rename this fella to lindsay lohan coz of their similarity lol..

it doesnt look stressed and i dont handle it before or after feeding. even after 2 or 3 days rest it still regurgitates the egg contents. i'll try something later, i have a feeding experiment to do. i'll try separating the egg white from the yolk and i'll feed it just the yolk. i can vaguely remember a scene where i did that to my juvenile asian water monitor who also loves regurgitating.
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus)   Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus) - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 7 Feb - 3:57

Hi, did you ever try to give it other kind of food?
Oligodon is a egg eater, but not all species feed excusivly on eggs.
Some are more generalists than others . In Malaysia I captured a purpurascens
for some days, I don't have had eggs there . I feed it with frogs and geckos!
Mabye this specimens can't degist the chicken eggs!? Did you have the Chance to give it
reptile eggs what is Part of there naturly diet?
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus)   Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus) - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 8 Feb - 11:55

Peter van Issem wrote:
Hi, did you ever try to give it other kind of food?
Oligodon is a egg eater, but not all species feed excusivly on eggs.
Some are more generalists than others . In Malaysia I captured a purpurascens
for some days, I don't have had eggs there . I feed it with frogs and geckos!
Mabye this specimens can't degist the chicken eggs!? Did you have the Chance to give it
reptile eggs what is Part of there naturly diet?

it was found near a bird's nest with small eggs in it. i tried feeding it with pinky mice and frogs but it seems to ignore those. i try feeding it with juvenile skinks later. thanks

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PostSubject: Re: Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus)   Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus) - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 9 Feb - 0:18

Hi,

I have never try to feed the Oligodon spec. with Skinks, because I have had bad experiences with feeding them to Bungarus fsciatus. They can´t digest them and reguritated them after some days.
I feed the Oligodon purpurascens with Cyrtodactylus spec. and Cnemaspis spec. , and Frogs of the species Lynonectes blythii and Rana hosii.

I´m not sure about the eggs from chicken and if they can make a problem to the snakes.
But reguritating can also shown a sign of Parasites !? or other sicknes. I hope not, but be prepared of this case. Eggs can carry Salmonella spec.
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus)   Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus) - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 9 Feb - 3:28


okay noted.

it also ignored the skink.

anyways, remember the experiment i mentioned above? it seem to work.

so this is my solution for a regurgitating kukri snake.

before feeding the egg, separate the egg white from the yolk. feed the egg white first, wait for a few minutes/hours coz the snake will regurgiate it. after doing so, feed the egg yolk next and you're done.

the yolk hasn't been regurgitated for 14 hours now. as for parasites, i've taken that into consideration but i've already dewormed it
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Peter van Issem
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus)   Northern Short-headed Snake (Oligodon ancorus) - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 9 Feb - 5:16

I personaly feed only the ,,yello from the egg'' this has more power!
Only adults feed a whole egg, but my adults feed all mices.
Keep us updated...
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Nej Palaganas
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Nej Palaganas


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Age : 37
Location : Asia
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yes, thank you. i will try to switch it to eat other prey soon.
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