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 Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro

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Travis Dimler
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Sebastian Mack

Sebastian Mack


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Age : 32
Location : Germany
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PostSubject: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro   Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro Icon_minitimeTue 12 Mar - 3:24

Hey Guys,
This is my first posting on this forum, that snakes are also my first venomous so i hope you enjoy!

4 V. ammodytes ammodytes from Croatia

The grey/ornage male on the top is ca CB from 2012.
The others (1.2) are from 2011.

[img]Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro P1050310[/img]
Whole Enclosure
[img]Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro P1050311[/img]
Beautyfull Male
[img]Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro P1050312[/img]
Another Angle
[img]Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro P1050313[/img]

These are 2 V. ammodytes ammodytes male from Montenegro

[img]Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro P1050314[/img]

[img]Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro P1050315[/img]


Can You See Him?
[img]Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro P1050316[/img]

Sweety
[img]Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro P1050317[/img]
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Jean-Pierre Linossier
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro   Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro Icon_minitimeTue 12 Mar - 5:22

Very nice enclosure, it realy look very realistic.
You must be carefull at feeding time with so many snakes in the same cage.
I have 3 in such enclosure and my male bite a female as i was walking in front of the glass at night...but it's a very nasty one.
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Daniel Claesson
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro   Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro Icon_minitimeSat 23 Mar - 5:08

Really nice snakes and enclosure. Hope they give you much joy.

Regards
Daniel
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Travis Dimler
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro   Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro Icon_minitimeTue 16 Apr - 2:40

Stunning cages! Do you have any more photos of the enclosures that show a wider perspective? It is so hard to get these type of cages in the USA.

Travis
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Sebastian Mack

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro   Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro Icon_minitimeTue 16 Apr - 23:16

Thanx for the nice reply !!!

Travis, the only things i bought were the enclosure and the back cover.
And I'm shure you'll find that in USA, too. ;-)

I made a new enclosure für the three Croatia-Ammodys because every plant was dying...

So i went to the forest, took two little trees and a bit ground with dry leafs. 3 Stones and a big branch and started the new "project".

See what it became. Very Happy

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Big branch first then the ground and the stones. At the end I put in the plants and mini trees.

Finish. Thats the enclosure after I put the snakes in.

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The big girl and the ornage boy

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Lady portrait Very Happy

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Little Trees

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Arjan Breedveld
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro   Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro Icon_minitimeMon 22 Apr - 6:03

Looks verry good,
I see you use a halogeen (35W?) spot low in the terrarium. They get verry hot.
Are you not affraid they gett burned?

Greetings.
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Rainer Fesser
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro   Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro Icon_minitimeTue 23 Apr - 17:16

Hello Sebastian,

I like what you created for these little beauties and I think they do so too. I wish you much fun with them, they just started to change color, you´ll see the change with each shedding-cycle. Keep us updated, please.

Hello Arjan,
you are right, the risk of hot spots has to be taken in consideration if you build up a terrarium.

Sebastian and I were talking about possible terrarium-setups for his V. ammodytes, including optimum heating and lighting. The relation between size of snakes, terrarium, setup,... cannot easily be recognized on the photos - it may look risky but it isn´t.
The snakes are small juveniles and, as V. ammodytes have a very good sensitivity for heat, they can easily avoid to get burnt. I have been keeping and breeding V. ammod. for over 40 years now. I never had any that got burnt by a spot or any other hot item. The position of the spot in Sebastian´s terrarium is no problem for these snakes.
I am sure Sebastian will change the settings when the snakes get bigger, his Croatia-ammodytes can grow very big, . They might possibly damage the spot by simply hanging on it when it´s cold but they surely would not touch it as long as it is hot.

Best regards,
Rainer
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John Worthington-Hill
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro   Vipera ammodytes ammodytes - Croatia / Montenegro Icon_minitimeTue 23 Apr - 17:26


Beautiful snakes. And I love seeing live vivs, great the enclosure design. That's how snakes should be kept!
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They really look awesome !. Beautiful collection, congratulates.
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