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Lars Evelson




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What is this? How dangerous is it?

P.S Snake found In Malaysia, in the State of Selangor at an altitude of 900-1000 meters.
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Wolfgang Wüster
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PostSubject: Re: Please help to identify a viper..   Please help to identify a viper.. Icon_minitimeTue 12 Mar - 16:34

Being from Selangor it should be Popeia fucata (or Trimereurus fucatus, depending on opinions...) - do you have a photo of the tail?
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http://www.bangor.ac.uk/~bss166/
Peter van Issem
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PostSubject: Re: Please help to identify a viper..   Please help to identify a viper.. Icon_minitimeTue 12 Mar - 18:31

The green eyes can be a sign for a P. nebularis female. Like Wolfgang wrote, a pocture of the tail will be very helpful. The altitude of nearly 900-1000 Meters can be ppssible for both species. At 1000 M I think, very high fir fucata and also low for nebularis.
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Jon Davidson
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Good photography work, Mr. Evelson. Everyone requesting help with the identification of specimens should provide such clear and descriptive photographs. A fine looking beast, whatever the species. Thanks for posting this. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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PostSubject: Re: Please help to identify a viper..   Please help to identify a viper.. Icon_minitimeWed 13 Mar - 2:32

Now I will quote more for a P. fucata, because the tail looks more than for this species. P. nebularis has a little bit more reddish tail and the ,,red´´ color is more sharp edged to the green. And the skin color is not dark as usal in nebularis. So for me more a P. ,,fucata´´, but color of the eyes are still a little bit strange to me.
Do not wonder about the ,,fucata´´ but for me pers. the species P. fucata is not satisfied clear, to much differend looking Malaysian & Thai local forms are included in this.
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Good photography work, Mr. Evelson
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So for me more a P. ,,fucata´´
I think it is Popeia fucata, Popeia nebularis (Cameron Highlands Pit Viper) is endemic of Cameron Highlands, it is ~100 km from place where I found this snake...

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PostSubject: Re: Please help to identify a viper..   Please help to identify a viper.. Icon_minitimeFri 15 Mar - 2:55

Ok Lars,
but P. nebularis is not only found in the CH! I know imported speciemens from a spot around 80 km (air distance) from the CH. So, possible is everything I think.

This other nebularis looks nearly identical to the CH ones, but not 100%. One distintive feature makes them very special. I want to visit this spot personaly so I will not post name of this spot. I think, P. nebularis is more wide distributed along the Tittiwangsa Mountain range than we know.
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