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Moritz Laszlo
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Hi there,

a few weeks ago I got a snake that should be Cryptelitrops albolabris. At home I could see that it must be a different kind of snake. Now I think its Popeia fucata or Viridovipera gumprechti. What do you guys think?

I'm pretty sure that it is a male. According to papers the animal was born in august 2012. It is about 40-45cm (15 inches) long.

On the Box stud only "from asia" and the pohne number and home page seams to be a fake aswell.

If you could help me I would be very happy,

best regards, and thanks a lot,

Moritz
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Moritz Laszlo wrote:
What do you guys think?

Errr.... I think you need to post some photos of it.
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Like Marrti wrote, without pictures -nearly impossible!
And please - good pictures!
Headshot, total and mabye the tail will be very helpfull.
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Guys, I´m realy, realy sorry! I´ve made a misstake by uploadind the pictures, I´ll try agin!

How can I upload a picture here?

Thanks a lot!
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https://servimg.com/view/18381885/1

https://servimg.com/view/18381885/2

https://servimg.com/view/18381885/3

If you need some more pics to identefy this snake, please tell me.

I´m sorry, (I hope) that workes out! Here we go,

sorry and thanks,

Moritz
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Definitely not an albolabris. You need to count some scales and take profile photos of the head to get closer to figuring out what it really is.
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Like Martti wrote, not an albolabris.

But also not an V. gumprechti.

First I was thinking on a V. vogeli male, because this blueish spots
are very typical fir them. The coloration if the tail don't look typical fir vogeli.
Also the red libe under the eye is not typical for vogeli.

Ar last I wasn't sure if it can be a V. stejnegeri or a P. fucata. Both specues has this
spits too!

Now ar home I compare it with my snakes and some pic's.

Now I will quote this snake is a P. fucata. Not sure wich population.
This is inly MPO! To seperate Viridovipera from Popeia is not easy. In some cases nearly impossible
on a living snake, only the
form and structure if the hemipenis can give you the perfect answer.

But, a question beside this treat: In Hamm last time, I see a snake ,, Viridovipera or Popeia'' in the venomous room. It was offered as T. albolabris male! Mabye your snake?
It was offered at the end if the room, in the middle part of the row.
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Hi Peter,

yes thats were I bourght it. I feel realy ashamed that I made this misstake, but now its one of my snakes and I don't want to give him away anymore!

Meaby its a bastard?

Whats means MPO?

Thank you so far, have a nice day!
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No, I think it is not an Bastard, because it don't looks alike.
Crossings within the ,,Trimeresurus,, Group are
not very comon.

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Okay, thankyou so far.
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