Hello from Sweden!

Hi Folks!

Im a 25 year old guy from Sweden that love animals and specially snakes and for some reason many venomous snakes.

I had snakes since I was a little kid like some lampropeltis, cornsnakes and a constricor but im quite new to the venomous part of the hobby. If we dont count all wild berus that I caught already as I child but those I think would be some of the most easyhandle venomus snakes that you can get.

My favourite snakes has always happened to be venomous so for 1.5 year or so I desided that it was time to get the snakes that I really wanted from the begging. Earlier I had a blue beuty ratsnake measuring about 2.2m with a very bad temper so I used this individual to train on handling her with a hook for long time until I felt that I always had full control of the situation. After that I went on a course in venomous snake handling.

My firs venomous was my A. l. lubricus which I hope will be a good (as good as it can get) step into the real najas if a want to have one of those in the future. Later on I got me a pair of albolabris wich was the snakes I was thinking of buying from the beginning (and I love them Wink

) I think I got a little extra love for arboreal pitvipers and the environment that they live in.

Hoping to have the oppurtunity to go to some field trips some day with some of you likeminded guys !

This was a little bit of me and I want to give some creds to those who runs this site and all good members that are sharing their knowledge !! It as been to very good help and have given me many hours of interesting reading!

I hope my English is okay Smile

I will add some pics of my snakes because pics are always nice tongue

Trimeresurus albolabris 0.1 (Location west Malaysia recording to the seller? )

Hello from Sweden! 125t9ft

Same female

Hello from Sweden! 2v1w6tj

A.l.lubricus 1.0 ( Lokation Springbrok (?)

Best wishes / Jonas

Hello Jonas,

welcome here! A nice introduction! Sound lije a good way to come in the fantastic and interesting part of our hobby. Trimeresurus albolabris are very nice and good to keep snakes, indeed! Not much people who has keeped venomous snakes miss to has kerp them😃
But about the location is douptful. But t was that whst the seller give to you. Still there is no voucher specimen or first record of albolabris in W-Malaysia. But the most southern finding in Thailand are not far away frim the political border to Malaysia. Mabye in the near future this gap can filled up with information.

Have a nice time here.

Guest

Good evening Jonas,

Welcome here at the forum.I think a lot of people started this hobby keeping Trimeresurus albolabris. I remember that my female was a very bad tempered snake Evil or Very Mad

Like Peter said, have a nice time.

Regards, Niko

Thanks for the welcome guys!

Actually my albolabris havent striket at me one singel time so far Smile

But they are heavy eaters and never miss! The lubricus is a different story Wink

Okey so they might be from southern Thailand then (or some other place lol) . West Malaysia was just what the breeder told me but i got no idea. Have done some research about different localities in albolabris but it seems that there still remains many questions because of lack of information and its hard to tell the different between them?

Hi Jonas,
yes, you are right. Trineresurus albolabris is mabye nit only one species, it will be a complex of differend species. When you compare ,,albolabris'' from differend countrys and locations, so you will a lot of differences. Coloration, presence or abcens of stripes, head shape, round or sharp edged canthus,how big are eyes...etc. Investigations are in procces, but will take much more time. To early to speak to much over it. But yours looks like that what we know as a typical albolabris!

OKej =)

Yes I spent a couple of hours googeling about this subject a couple months ago and as you said I noticed some of the "locations" hade quite a different headshape almost like a macrops.

yes, there are some others, but still albolabris. In Thailand are some forms they looks very differend. There are some with red eyes, some looks like a typical Viridovipera spec., over 15 years ago, there was a lot of imports of Green pitvipers from Thailand they was offered as ,, Thai stejnegeri'' but it was a member if the albolabris group. A wide range of investigations can be done there. The same is with other species too. We have not to find the new species, they are there! We have ,,only'' to see the differences 😉

Guest

Peter you are right. My male had red eyes, a dark red, Not the typically orange albolabris eyes. I also have seen some albolabris from thailand with A few blue scales on the green body like rubeus.

Cheers,Niko

Hi Niko, this particulary blue scales you will find all over the green pitvipers. I have seen them in albolabris, macrops, cardamomensis, fucata, gumprechti,and once in stejnegeri from Vietnam. I'm sure that this no sign for a special species. IMO it is like in other green snakes too: where is green, blue is nit far away. But the red eyed ,,albolabris'' are realy beautiful. First time I've seen them was on a book cover. I was told that they exist in Thailandby Andreas Gumprecht.
Chan-Art et. all ,,Amphibians and reptiles of peninsular Malaysia and Thailand''
And than only once in captivity. Never seen them after this.

Guest

Hi Peter,

I have seen this blue scales only on gtp. I have never Seen something like this and I dont think that it could be some special species:
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Btw Peter, thank you very much for the interesting information.
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on the left, the male with the red eyes, right the female with the normal eyes.

looks nice, I seen them mostly only on the body, but not massiv like this on the head.

Guest

Yes Peter, would be interesting to know if this is genetic...wouldnt say no to breed this Laughing

Thanks for all interesting info you are charing !

Yea it seems to be a lot of things left so sort out according to subspecies and different localities.

Cheers Jonas

You welcom Jonas Very Happy

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