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PostSubject: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Jan - 4:04

A very happy day here in Durban , Today the first baby is hatching , already hooding with attitude , I love it !
Please enjoy this pictures..
Many Thanks
Andrew

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Jan - 4:07

Ohh! Lovly!
Good luck with them.

Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Jan - 5:40

Congrats Andrew!!
Very nice babies!! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Jan - 6:05

Nice species. Congrats
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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Jan - 14:27

Thanks Guys , it appears the rest of the gang is coming out..

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Jan - 15:18

Wow those are very pretty Andrew. Congratulations! Very nice quality. They also look like a nice size.
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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Jan - 17:09

Is this A lubricus lubricus?
For my interest: how do You handle them (regarding the relaively mild venom)?
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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Jan - 21:00

Hi

@Adrew: Gratulations! Nice little babies Smile

@Günter: Many people handle them with their bare hands, but thats unnessecary, they are so easy with the snakehook, no need to take them with your hands

I think they are easy to start with "hots", you could ask Afred Wallner, I think he got some CB 08 left (bro's and sisters of mine)

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Jan - 23:27

Great shot, the second, Markus but crop it to portrait format and it will be even better!

Thanks for the tip, but my time with "hots" is definitely a few years away. My twins are 7 now and I do not want venomous snakes in here until they are more "reasonable".
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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Jan - 23:41

I can understand that Smile

By the way, do you think a pol-filter would be useful to undo the shining of the scales?
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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeMon 19 Jan - 0:33

Hi,

No, not really. Better is a diffusor on the flash, a white piece of plastic or something like that. Otherwise some highlights are good for a picture IMHO.

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeMon 19 Jan - 1:33

Hi Guenter yes these are A. l. lubricus.
Andrew has been trying very hard to make sure that both parents are from the same locality to breed lovely pure animals. It looks like he got it right.
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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeMon 19 Jan - 15:55

Thanks for the compliments to everybody.

Guenter , when I was taking this photos of the snakes they were jumping out of the tub and trying to fall on the floor off the table , as an emergency reaction I am catching them with my bare hands , I did not want them to fall and hurt themselves so I take the chance , none of the animals were biting me.
I have two peoples who were bitten by this snakes and there was no effect of the venom so far.

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeMon 19 Jan - 16:24

No effect? Not even local? Interesting!

I read something about bites here: http://www.seitenwinder.de/rubriken/bissberichte/aspidelapslubricus.htm
(sadly in German).

Mostly local effects.

Anyway: Good luck with the hatchlings. Beautiful snakes IMHO.

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeMon 19 Jan - 19:02

The venom of Asipidelaps lubricus lubricus contains different neurotoxic components.
But the yield isn´t much. I read something about 35 mg - 70 mg.
But lubricus lubricus should be saver than other Aspidelaps

http://www.venomdoc.com/downloads/2003_BGF_Colubroidea_RCMS.pdf
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In the African Aspidelaps
lubricus, 3FTx and PLA2 toxins,20–22 with toxicities comparable
to those of African species of Naja (Cobra), have been
purified. Consistent with these findings, the venom is rich in
molecular masses characteristic of 3FTx, and also contains 19
kDa components (possibly C-type lectins).

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species (coral and shield-nose cobras) are very popular pet
venomous snakes due to their small size, colorful pattern and
reputed inability to cause medically significant envenomings.
However, the large number and quantity of 3FTx
molecular masses suggest that these species may be
dangerous, and lethal bites are in fact on record.52

52 52. van Egmond KC. S. Afr. Med. J. 1984; 66: 714.

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeTue 20 Jan - 0:10

Very nice photos and congratulations on the clutch. I have a question on the venoms though, I keep a. l. cowlesi. Is their venom more potent than that of a.l. lubricus?
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Bites from these snakes have been considered potentially
dangerous (Visser and Chapman 1978) and
documented fatalities, although rare, have occurred
from both A. lubricus (Branch 1979) and A. scutatus
(van Egmond 1984).
The venom of all species ( lubricus ) may be same toxic. I read certain papers and I think only the venom of A. scutatus is even more potent.

But I would handel all species not bare hand.

Here is an interesting paper
http://www.teraechis.cz/Web_somalia/images/Jedovati_hadi/PDFs/Broadley%20&%20Baldwin.pdf

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Gooooorgeous!!! COngrat's!
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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeTue 10 Feb - 5:28

They are beautiful!
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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Feb - 3:21

these are awesome,good job Cool i handel mine with a little snakehook anyway,because the short fangs
in this spiecies i would however say good gloves woud work also
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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Feb - 15:33

Today more Aspidelaps from a different female but the same male are coming out... Valentine Corals ! this is the first baby two are still sitting in the eggs.. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Feb - 21:08

Beautiful babies! I really like the thin banding. Do you adults look like this as well?

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Feb - 22:03

2nd baby just popped out... Jon ,The adults are also similar will take some photos tomorrow so we can see . cheers

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeMon 16 Feb - 9:17

Oh my!!

I think im in love


Lil babas

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PostSubject: Re: A.lubricus CB09   A.lubricus CB09 Icon_minitimeWed 18 Feb - 20:14

Yeah Andrew those are exceptional man. lubricus are usually not so pretty when they hatch, the colours get better as they mature but these are equisite!
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