Micrurus surinamensis

The first and only South American Elapid I ever laid eyes on.

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Ouch, what snake !!!!! Shocked

Those head patterns are crazy!

BEAUTIFUL !!! I love South American Corals !! Is this little beauty yours ?

Micururus surinamensis , is wide spread through out South America, ive only found it once in Suriname , highly aquatic , in captivity , feeds on fresh water fish, this snake has a habit of flattening it's entire body when threathened and raise it's tail to act like it's head .

* do not attempt to keep this elapidae in a non- aquatic enviroment will dehydrate quicky !

Thanks, for posting Eli.

sincerely Albert

Like Nigel said... those head markings are amazing... and those colors..
One of the nicest snakes if you ask me.

Regards,
Niels

These South american aquatic coral snakes, Micururus surinamensis, deserve a second look,
their large jaw and skull fully capable of delivering a full on bite, in the typical chewing coral snake fashion , perhaps some specialists can inform of of their LD 50 . i do know it's lethally high as in many "aquatic" Elaps.

* Micururus surinamensis, is also known as The Giant Aquatic coral Snake and reach more than 1.80 M. in lenght.

* spelled correctly is.... Micrurus surinamensis surinamensis.

What others subspecies there are Albert?

Jean-henri - Bart Henzen and myself found what was believed to be a Micrururus albicinctus on Surinames border with French Guiana, but im not 100% sure , as these are rarely found locally, near Rodonia Brazil.

so, for the moment, they still Micrurus (and not micrururus... Wink

) surinamensis....right?

No, not mine. The snake in the photograph is dead!

We found him found on a road, at night,on dry pavement. I thought it was alive when I approached him( easily sexed when dead) and was in such pristine condition that I decided to pose it up on a leaf and take a few pictures. I was hoping to see a Coral Snake, and my wish was granted. Maybe someday I'll have a chance to see a live specimen:)

Mr. Eli Carleton's expedition to Peru? has less wider black bands than the Micrurus surinamensis.

b) Jean -henri LOL !, rurururu's , Thanks I need glasses for my glasses.

Yes Jean-Henri,

The genus is Micrurus:-)

Albert,

I'm curious what makes you think that the snake was from Peru, judging by the black bands alone? Are you thinking this is Micrurus s. nattereri? Is it not.

I thought it might have a slightly different appearance as a juvenile. The snakes total length was about 20cm.

It's the one and only South American Elapid I will probably ever see. Traveling is not in my future. If I see another Micrurus it will be here in the US:( Feel free to post some picture of the Micrurus you've seen in your many travels!!

Eli

Quote :: Micururus surinamensis, is also known as The Giant Aquatic coral Snake and reach more than 1.80 M. in lenght.

wow, 180 cm, and even more! That would be quite a biggie!

A lenght of 180 cm has been reported by Dunn (1944) from Colombia, another specimen from similar lenght by Soini from Guyana (1974).
Both reports haven't been verified!
According to Campbell & Lamar (2004), average size of this species is 80 - 100 cm - largest known museum specimen measures 122 cm (Amaral, 1925).

Thanks, Peter from saving me to look like a total fool those were Juan Manuel Renjifo's personal comment's over lunch at a seminar on CORALSNAKES of Colombia, ill review Campbell and Lamars refrences,. LD 50? anyone.

Maybe Eli , my only photographic " evidence" since i travel alone , is my 4 expired passports, haven't even renewed them , the balls in you young guy's court now, show us what you got !

Eli, Excellent post ,and im truly interested in seeing what you have .

Sincerely

Albert.

Quote :: Thanks, Peter from saving me to look like a total fool

I'll do my best, Mr. Montejo, although beeing not sure i can manage that.........

regards
Peter Zürcher

Guenter , can you find out the LD 50 for Micrurus surinamensis , i can't find it any where but i tell you people will be schocked ! it's right up there .

Thanks ,

regards

Di Albert's

Albert J. Montejo wrote:: the LD 50 for Micrurus surinamensis

>> An paper about that <<

As far as I know there is only a single fatality record for Micrurus surinamensis... Not an answer to the LD50, but it is useless to humans anyways. At least this is what I've read in my limited literature...

Eli

Situation, is that the Phillipine island's think they got it locked down when it comes to the toxicity of the Naja phillipinensis, LD50. and so in that aspect your kind of correct, Eli.

Yet a much more sinister character is the Lachesis stenophrhys of Central america it takes out apx. 80% percent of the victims of accidental envenomations with out treatment in Costarica, C.A.

ill give my tip in advance not only will the LD50 of Micrurus surinames impress but so will the quantity or yield of output of their secretion, making Central and South America right up there with Austraiila .

Peters Zurchers, reference and math for Naja Phillipinensis

.Subject: Re: Naja samarensis cb 2011 Fri 20 May - 14:22
38 out of 39 victims developed respiratory failure, 19 of these complete respiratory paralysis, 3 of these within 30 minutes (Watt et al. 1988)

Death rate among Philippine rice farmers is 107 out of 100.000 in a year. Only 8% of the victims do reach a hospital (Watt et al. 1987)

regards
Peter

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Cobras - breathtaking beauties!

So do the math far from the 80% fatalities with out treatment as in the case with Lachesis stenophrys.

Wrong ! Naja samarensis , so Peter will have to explain the analogy with phillipinensis which was Aprils question.

Actually, the way it printed out seemed to paraphrase, Naja samarensis, but it's correct , it's Naja phillipinesis, that was being described.

So statement, number one stands as is .

My apologies.

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