Micrurus surinamensis

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Beam me up, Scotty!

In the 1996 publication(entitled): 'Coral Snakes of the Americas, Biology, Identifications, and Venom', by Janis Roze(Krieger Publishing, ISBN#: 0-89464-847-0); Micrurus surinamensis is said to have large venom yields, up to 108 mg from specimens over one meter in length(pps: 101-102). Roze also states(on pp: 102) that: 'Silva(1994)found that the most toxic venom is that of M. surinamensis(LD50= 0.41 ug/gr)'. The longest specimen reported by Silva(1994)is 1350 mm long, adding(that) 'Many adults measure between 600 and 900 mm'. (Silva Haad J. J. 1994. 'Los micrurus de la Amazonia colombiana. Biologia y toxicologia experimental de sus venenos'. Colombia Amazonica, 7(1-2): 41- 138.). By the way, great photograph, Mr. Carleton. Sincerely, Jon Davidson . Writer's edit: Correction: Roze's citation of Silva's LD50... is on page 102, not on page 221 as originally posted( M. surinamensis is covered on pps: 221- 223.).

Jon, thanks for that completely interesting.

Peter im insuniating that more people succumb to untreated Lachesis stenophrys envenomation in Costa Rica than rice farmers in the Phillipines do from untreated Naja phillipinesis accidental envenomations .

2) Micrurus Surinamensis, Ld 50 compared to Notechis Scutatus, Naja Phillipinensis. * We can go with Jon's reference at face value for now if you wish.

if you will , have patience with us newbies .

Albert J. Montejo wrote:: 'Situation, is that the Phillipine island's think they got it locked down when it comes to the toxicity of the Naja phillipinensis, LD50. and so in that aspect your kind of correct...'

...etc, ad nauseam. If it is possible for you Mr. Montejo, perhaps you could stay on topic(...?). Sincerely, Jon Davidson .

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Beam me up, Scotty!

"I've given her all she's got, Captain, and I can't give her no more."

Mr Montejo, I'll give up.
You are more that I can stand!
Sorry to not read Your statements anymore, forums have a function to allow this and I'll use it.

Hang on there , Jon, im getting some where with all this, with comparatives im trying to make a point about the toxicity and venom yield of Micrurus Surinamensis, if you could paraphrase all the examples i gave and put them in a structured paragraph i would appreciate that.

April Mandell, Wrote: Any thread posted in an open forum has the potential to take on a life of its own, and the more directions taken only improves the value of the thread.

Albert J. Montejo wrote:: Hang on there , Jon, im getting some where with all this, with comparatives im trying to make a point about the toxicity and venom yield of Micrurus Surinamensis, if you could paraphrase all the examples i gave and put them in a structured paragraph i would appreciate that.

Instead of asking others to speak on your behalf, Mr. Montejo; I would suggest that you endeavour to construct your own paragraphs in a coherent manner. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .

Eli Carleton wrote:: The first and only South American Elapid I ever laid eyes on.

I don't remember ever seeing a specimen of Micrurus sp. from Central or South America. Are they present in any public collections in either the US or Europe?

April,

I can post a photo of a Micrurus alleni later when I'm home:)

I'm not sure about any captives. Maybe others know more about captives than me. I like to observe them in the wild!

Eli

Intravenous LD-50s

Micrurus surinamensis 0.41

Naja atra 0.348

Bungarus fasciatus 1.289

Naja nivea 0.57

Naja nigricollis 0.63

Naja haje 0.42

Naja naja 0.35

Laticauda laticauda 0.163

Notechis scutatus 0.04

Oxyuranus Scutellatus 0.01

n the 1996 publication(entitled): 'Coral Snakes of the Americas, Biology, Identifications, and Venom', by Janis Roze(Krieger Publishing, ISBN#: 0-89464-847-0); Micrurus surinamensis is said to have large venom yields, up to 108 mg from specimens over one meter in length(pps: 101-102). Roze also states(on pp: 221) that: 'Silva(1994)found that the most toxic venom is that of M. surinamensis(LD50= 0.41 ug/gr)'. The longest specimen reported by Silva(1994)is 1350 mm long, adding(that) 'Many adults measure between 600 and 900 mm'. (Silva Haad J. J. 1994. 'Los micrurus de la Amazonia colombiana. Biologia y toxicologia experimental de sus venenos'. Colombia Amazonica, 7(1-2): 41- 138.). By the way, great photograph, Mr. Carleton. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .

Thank you, all for your participation in Eli Carelton's, thread ,

* special thanks to Jon Davidson , Toronto Canada,

sincerely,

Albert.

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Nice snake.. even if it is dead!

I know English isn't the first language for some of you however reading this I am starting to doubt my own abilities to read it. Albert J. Montejo I have to say you make very little sense. You make out to be a experienced professional from what I can gather however there are a huge amount of mistakes in your posts, what's the deal?

Thank you, Owen. Yes it was unfortunately dead. It was only dead for probably minutes. Too bad for the snake. But safer for me to pose for a photo:)

woow this is really nice colors

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