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Patrick Vince
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Guenter Leitenbauer
Jon Davidson
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Scott Eipper
Stefan Anthonijsz
Martin Marx
Richard Blok
Tim Hallam
Magnus Karlsson
Peter Zürcher
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Wojciech Kuklewicz
Klaus Roemer
Bartholin Yann
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Marco Buegel
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read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-13965282


Best whishes
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Kelly Chabak
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Very sad:(
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condolenses
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Bartholin Yann
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bad news, the king cobra sanctuary will no longer exists, condolenses to Luke Yeomans familly and his friends!
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very sad day.
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Klaus Roemer
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The various reports are not specific about whether this was a fatality due to snakebite or to (snakebite-associated or unrelated?) heart attack. In light of the apparent speed of deterioration, I would put my bets on the latter.
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Wojciech Kuklewicz
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Very sad news. So that it is so like least. He was one of us after all... Rest in peace [*]


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Very sad news. Luke was passionate about his Kings and their conservation.
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I'm not sure if many people here knew that, but Luke is a member of our forum.
Sincere condolences to his family and friends,

VenomLand team
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Magnus Karlsson
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Now the point has been made that free-handling venomous snakes is stupid.
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Magnus Karlsson wrote:
Now the point has been made that free-handling venomous snakes is stupid.

INAPPROPRIATE

MODERATORS PLEASE?
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Tim Hallam wrote:
Magnus Karlsson wrote:
Now the point has been made that free-handling venomous snakes is stupid.

INAPPROPRIATE

MODERATORS PLEASE?

Tim please, uploading movie clips of free handling king cobras is way more inappropriate than what I wrote. Besides that, what I wrote is absolutely true.
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Peter Zürcher
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Quote :
Tim please, uploading movie clips of free handling king cobras is way more inappropriate than what I wrote. Besides that, what I wrote is absolutely true.

It's wether the place nor the right time for these remarks, Magnus!

We don't know what really happened, so please hold back any unqualified comments!

Thank you
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A little bit respect magnus Evil or Very Mad
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Wojciech Kuklewicz
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Truth Peter. Let us respect everyone death of Luke and let us refrain ourselves from silly comments.
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a very sad Day
my condolences do is family an friends!!!
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I am shocked hearing this...

Condolences to Luke's family and friends...
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I have recently been speaking with re Pseudechis, really helpful guy.... such a shame my Condolences to his family

Cheers,
Scott Eipper
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Sad My sincere condolences to his family and friends. Always sad for a felllow herper to pass. Be it from snakebite, heart attack or like the great Bill Hasst old age.
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Magnus Karlsson wrote:
Tim Hallam wrote:
Magnus Karlsson wrote:
Now the point has been made that free-handling venomous snakes is stupid.

INAPPROPRIATE

MODERATORS PLEASE?

Tim please, uploading movie clips of free handling king cobras is way more inappropriate than what I wrote. Besides that, what I wrote is absolutely true.
I agree completely with the perspective expressed by Mr. Karlsson. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .
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My sincere condolences to his family and friends.
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Jon Davidson wrote:
Magnus Karlsson wrote:
Tim Hallam wrote:
Magnus Karlsson wrote:
Now the point has been made that free-handling venomous snakes is stupid.

INAPPROPRIATE

MODERATORS PLEASE?

Tim please, uploading movie clips of free handling king cobras is way more inappropriate than what I wrote. Besides that, what I wrote is absolutely true.
I agree completely with the perspective expressed by Mr. Karlsson. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .

Folks, a fellow venomous keeper has passed away, and has not even been dead for 24 hrs. This is not the time or place for public bickering about handling practices. Let's think of his family and friends and respect their feelings at this time!
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Peter Zürcher
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Thank you, Wolfgang!
Handling practice can and should be discussed, but definitely not here!
I will delete all posts going that way.
regards
Peter
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Wolfgang Wüster wrote:
Jon Davidson wrote:
Magnus Karlsson wrote:
Tim Hallam wrote:
Magnus Karlsson wrote:
Now the point has been made that free-handling venomous snakes is stupid.

INAPPROPRIATE

MODERATORS PLEASE?

Tim please, uploading movie clips of free handling king cobras is way more inappropriate than what I wrote. Besides that, what I wrote is absolutely true.
I agree completely with the perspective expressed by Mr. Karlsson. Sincerely, Jon Davidson .

Folks, a fellow venomous keeper has passed away, and has not even been dead for 24 hrs. This is not the time or place for public bickering about handling practices. Let's think of his family and friends and respect their feelings at this time!

Agreed. I would hope that when I go people would wait longer than 1 day to start pointing out my mistakes.
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Sincere condolenses to his family.
Very sad day.
R.
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