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PostSubject: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeWed 24 Aug - 22:54

This is a post from my snake room. At the moment she gives birth to the babys 2011!Im very happy. A great experience! Pics will follow in the next days. regards Philipp
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeWed 24 Aug - 23:25

Congrats Philipp we wait for pictures Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeThu 25 Aug - 2:46

Congrats ... and like Andrew i´m looking forward to see some pictures Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeThu 25 Aug - 4:20

Such a post without pictures! Philipp lets go.. ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeThu 25 Aug - 6:56

Peter van Issem wrote:
Such a post without pictures! Philipp lets go.. ;-)

I second that! Congrats!

Cheers, Ro.
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeThu 25 Aug - 6:57

Congrats! Looking forward to seeing some pictures!
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeFri 26 Aug - 23:53

Here the first pics !
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeSat 27 Aug - 2:10

Congrats for the nice offsprings! Hope, the will grow up very fast.
It will be interesting to see, how the change there colors after the next two shedds.
Thanks for posting pic´s!
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeSat 27 Aug - 16:39

the parent's seems to be normal phase, my friend who keep the blue ones have very different snakes!
he said there is three morph

high green(commonly seen in nature)
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normal phase(commonly seen in nature)
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and blue phase(the ones i've seen are less saturated but very close to this)
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my friend have the three morphs but maybe my screen is bad calibrated
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeSat 27 Aug - 17:01

@ Bartholin: Yes, the last picture is that, what I call blue.
I see such a snake only one time. And that was in Hamm. It was a WC from Costa Rica.
Very blue, but it was not in best condition. The snake on your picture looks very good.
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeSat 27 Aug - 18:43

& Bartholin,
your blue one is really blue . But in this coloration it is very,very rare. My B.lateralis blue are very different to the "normal ones".
I don`t heard about a third variant till now. But in nature, there are so many individual color differences. So far I know there are no sciantifically proven studies that the blue animals are genetically different of the green animals. If someone has information I would be glad to read this here.
Who breeds also regularly Bothriechis lateralis?
best regards
Philipp
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeSun 28 Aug - 0:20

Wow... They look fantastic! How many babies?

Put me on the list for next year please.

Cheers, Ro.
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Hi Ro!
4,5 !
only 1,1 are still available.
I put you on the list for next Year.
cheers
Philipp
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeSun 28 Aug - 7:48

Congrats Philipp on your sucess!!


@Bartholin and Peter,

The pics of lateralis that Batholin posted were of animals I owned and were captive born in Costa Rica produced in captivity by Robert Meidinger. I had 1,1 of the blue phase lateralis. The male expired last year, however the female is being kept by a friend in North Carolina. I have spoken to Robert several times, in hopes to get another female.

http://www.matabuey.com/collection/palmvipers.htm

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congratulations man, B lateralis are one of my all time favourites, by the way how are the babys doing?? keep updating
regards
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeSun 28 Aug - 18:05

Congrats in deed! It's not common to see cb B. lateralis.
If you want, you could share some info of the breeding this sp.
Did you withnessed the copulation, I mean witch time of the season it happened?
How long was the gestation time?

I had 2.1. of these beauties and they copulated on "winter" time.

I will be nice to see the colour change.. so post pics when that happens (hope they carry the blue gene).

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@ Sami!
Thanks!
I did not see the pairing.
Last year she gave birth at the 17 Juli.
After one year the young looks so:
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cheers Philipp
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeSun 28 Aug - 23:42

That snake looks sweet!
I hate that my female died while pregnant.
BTW. if anyone needs a "blue" male I have one.

Good luck with the babies!
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeWed 31 Aug - 23:30

Hi Philipp,
congrats you did it again. Mine are doing very well and are over 40cm and all green.
2 males starts to change the colour. I guess they look like the father.
Greetings
Rene
See you in Hamm.
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PostSubject: Re: Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011   Bothriechis lateralis blue phase cb 2011 Icon_minitimeThu 1 Sep - 0:04

@Rene!
Thanks!
Can you post some pics of your B.lateralis?
Greetings
Philipp
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