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PostSubject: snakehandler killed by asp viper   snakehandler killed by asp viper Icon_minitimeWed 19 Jun - 23:18

sorry, only in german at this time.
A german showman travelling with his snake show has been bitten today by an asp viper, Vipera aspis sp., while performing his show in France and died on stage:
http://www.20min.ch/panorama/news/story/Schlangen-Experte-waehrend-Show-totgebissen-15423521

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PostSubject: Re: snakehandler killed by asp viper   snakehandler killed by asp viper Icon_minitimeThu 20 Jun - 9:02

it was near my town southeast france near montpellier! the article in french:http://www.midilibre.fr/2013/06/18/herault-il-meurt-mordu-par-sa-vipere-en-plein-spectacle,718957.php once again due to free handling...
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PostSubject: Re: snakehandler killed by asp viper   snakehandler killed by asp viper Icon_minitimeThu 20 Jun - 16:30

Here's a report in english:
http://www.thelocal.fr/20130619/snake-charmer-dies-during-viper-demo-in-southern-france

very remarkable: "he was a hepatologist (liver specialist).
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PostSubject: Re: snakehandler killed by asp viper   snakehandler killed by asp viper Icon_minitimeThu 20 Jun - 22:42

yes the french press present him like an herpetologist...but he was an herpeto-enthousiast...with freehandling technic...he aims to show people that snakes are not so dangerous...epic fail, hundred people shocked and i hope they won't see snakes this summer, bad times for snakes in the region...a sad story for sure!
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PostSubject: Re: snakehandler killed by asp viper   snakehandler killed by asp viper Icon_minitimeThu 20 Jun - 23:07

This unfortunate event sends a bad message to good people. Sad.
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PostSubject: Re: snakehandler killed by asp viper   snakehandler killed by asp viper Icon_minitimeFri 21 Jun - 7:25

An unfortunate accident, I wonder why the emergency services administered a blood thinner?
  Brian.
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PostSubject: Re: snakehandler killed by asp viper   snakehandler killed by asp viper Icon_minitimeFri 21 Jun - 15:56

I've been wondering too. Usually the problems turn contrary pretty soon due to consumption coagulopathy. I've never heard of victims died by blood clotting.
Maybe adrenaline would have been a better choice?
I could also imagine hypovolemia due to large amount of toxins by multiple bites, maybe in a blood vessel.
It's a kind of tragedy to die from an asp viper bite after a life-filling freehandling of snakes such as cobras and puff adders.
I'm sure he wanted the best for snakes from his sight, but his methods and show acts have surely been disputable.
May he rest in peace.
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